' Wrote:I have the pitchforks and the tiki torches covered, someone get some rope and make a noose. What we have here is a old fashioned forum lynching.
If you have questions, then ask them. If you have a problem with a person send in a sanction report.
Defamation of character with one sided stories is a forum trial, something not appreciated around here.
If drama is what you crave watch a daytime soap opera, horrible acting i know but excellently dubious plot lines.
i like your swagger:D
one of the bueatiful things about forums, is that anyone can post. the guy i "flamed" can post and say what he believes, but i did take ss of our private conversation. so if i'm tryin to lynch the " varmit" I woulda just filed a sanction report, all i am doing here, is hoping that one of his buddies or enemies who see's him before me lets him know what's up.
' Wrote:*puts a pie in the thread*
Trial by forum, always nice, i think that this should be left to die.
Byegons heh.
You died? Oh my. Get used to it, heh. Get used to oorp kills since its common in NY.
Actually i didn't Die. but i love the RP aspect so much, i don't want peeps coming in here and doing what they wish(especially since i talked to em in priv convo first off)
' Wrote:Ok pilots, you all been here a lot longer than i, so if you really hate the name dropping, so be it. Personally I don't see any problem in it. we all should check the forums, and if we're all checking the forums then us or one of our buddies would had seen the post. which gives more than enough for the "defendent" to come on and say yay or nay. To me i would rather name drop, cause as i said before i did discuss it with him but he doesn't see it as cheating. So like i siad in my prev. posts i don't think he should be banned, but somebody should talk to him on the matter. But, i'll not name drop any longer(well unless i have no other choise) in that case if i must, i'll take my verbage beatings:)
I really was avoiding posting about this, but I still don't think you see the point about the name dropping. You don't do it because its your personal perception of what happened. I saw most of this happen in NY last night while cruising around in my camera ship and saw your screenshots that were passed around. You are not being entirely clear with the whole story. Dragging someones name through the mud because you perceive yourself to be wronged is distasteful.
I really don't see, in your accusation, where any rules were broken.
1. I saw a pirate trying to pirate you, thats normal and part of the fun.
2. You flew to Detroit, where you stated that he warned you that you might get stuck. Detroit munitions does have a known bug. Its more likely that he was privately trying to warn you, as a new player, that that you might get stuck in there and not trying to lure you out. From looking at the screenshots that were shared with me, I'd say he was trying to help you and they are no proof of wrongdoing.
Similarly, to Heavy Metal Queen, thats not at all how that engagement occured, from my neutral perspcetive, and its just as bad as name dropping to say that in this thread. The pirates were not OORP or "poorly formed." They are pirates and are supposed to be mean and bad, these ones are extraordinarily effective. That doesn't mean that they are OORP though. I thought they were rather polite to all of the lawfuls by subtly hinting that you should leave the system after your deaths instead of demanding it or making it a big deal.
Joo joo, as a general rule of thumb, try give the other player the benefit of the doubt and try to discuss it politely instead of being accusatory. You don't need to jump to the forums everytime you get attacked and specifically accuse someone of rule breaking....especially when they didn't break any...:(
Bad Form BAAAD Form. Your narrative was fine, but no name dropping. If it was that offensive, there are other ways to deal with it. Obviously, you were taken advantage of. Obviously it was all questionable. I won't quote rules, I'm not interested in restating the obvious. So I'll just say...
BAAAD FORM all the way around.
Fellas, before you accuse someone, make a detailed scan of said ship. That molly tagged gunboat does in fact own pirate ID, not molly one. Molly tag is only there because he is pirate from Bretonia.
Maybe if you pm-ed said ship and asked about you would got that info. I allready had situation with Molly as faction getting flak from it, and simple pm to said player, and he explained why and what he flies.
To summarize for you:
Molly tag
Generic Pirate ID
Rogue gunboat
You will notice he is not oorp, or breaking rules, so down with torches, pitchforks and ropes, because there will be holy "Minigun of Logic" on other side.
Oh well, I agree with most of the people here that both the action we were talkn about, trial by forum, and name dropping are all bad. (i sid that so it wouldnt be marked as spam)
*puts a large cake witha noose drawn on it on the trial table*
Have fun ladies
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' Wrote:I really was avoiding posting about this, but I still don't think you see the point about the name dropping. You don't do it because its your personal perception of what happened. I saw most of this happen in NY last night while cruising around in my camera ship and saw your screenshots that were passed around. You are not being entirely clear with the whole story. Dragging someones name through the mud because you perceive yourself to be wronged is distasteful.
I really don't see, in your accusation, where any rules were broken.
1. I saw a pirate trying to pirate you, thats normal and part of the fun.
2. You flew to Detroit, where you stated that he warned you that you might get stuck. Detroit munitions does have a known bug. Its more likely that he was privately trying to warn you, as a new player, that that you might get stuck in there and not trying to lure you out. From looking at the screenshots that were shared with me, I'd say he was trying to help you and they are no proof of wrongdoing.
Similarly, to Heavy Metal Queen, thats not at all how that engagement occured, from my neutral perspcetive, and its just as bad as name dropping to say that in this thread. The pirates were not OORP or "poorly formed." They are pirates and are supposed to be mean and bad, these ones are extraordinarily effective. That doesn't mean that they are OORP though. I thought they were rather polite to all of the lawfuls by subtly hinting that you should leave the system after your deaths instead of demanding it or making it a big deal.
Joo joo, as a general rule of thumb, try give the other player the benefit of the doubt and try to discuss it politely instead of being accusatory. You don't need to jump to the forums everytime you get attacked and specifically accuse someone of rule breaking....especially when they didn't break any...:(
Relax and enjoy the game guys...see you in space.
first off, lets hit these 1 by 1 before the thread is locked down.
"I saw most of this happen in NY last night while cruising around in my camera ship and saw your screenshots that were passed around." -end quote
Screenshots were sent this morning to 1 player, did he send you some? because i only sent them to SGTMatt, not to you. . .unless your Matt, in that case why are you posting on this account?
"You flew to Detroit, where you stated that he warned you that you might get stuck. Detroit munitions does have a known bug. Its more likely that he was privately trying to warn you, as a new player, that that you might get stuck in there and not trying to lure you out." -end quote
while i was flying to Det. Munitions he was saying in system he was gonna be nice and let me dock. that i wasn't worth him killing etc etc etc(Which btw was some excellent RP) ONLY AFTER I docked did he tell me of the big ship bug. if he would had said, don't dock there with ur big ship, you'll get stuck, i would agree with you. But that Obviously wasn't the case.
"From looking at the screenshots that were shared with me, I'd say he was trying to help you and they are no proof of wrongdoing." -end quote
I'm gonna let my first reply answer this one as well m8.
"Joo joo, as a general rule of thumb, try give the other player the benefit of the doubt and try to discuss it politely instead of being accusatory. You don't need to jump to the forums everytime you get attacked and specifically accuse someone of rule breaking....especially when they didn't break any...:( " -end quote
As a general rule of thumb with FL a lot of these RP rules are "hard" to enforce. for that fact, i will come here to the forums everytime i see a disagreement(Especially when i feel i was in the right) You say that name dropping is Bad, very well. I'll only do it in extreme circumstances. would i do it again just like i did it before. You bet, you see another pilot was wondering if it was his pilot. And considering that the guy i name dropped didn't think it was cheating. I was making sure that if this was a "bad apple" it could be dealt with(not with bans and sanctions, but hopefully with pilots this guy respects who tells him, hey man that wasn't right) and i did pm him saying i believed what he tried to do was bad form, he did not agree, and when i said what he had done was tantamount to cheating, he said "hardly." Would you like me to send you the 3 screenshots i was talking about earilier?
C.law is my wife. We were discussing this and she asked for the pics because she was there.
Should probly let this one die.
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I also have 2 screenshots from last night, and his IFF did say Molly. No MR or UoG in front of it. I remember him chasing you down......Couple of Outcasts, Couple of Rogues, a Lane Hacker. Same people the last couple of nights.........It also looks like <strike>they a</strike> some people are docking and signing on and off in Conneticut too.
Screen shots are availlable to admins if so interested....
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