Let the merc become an assistance role....They would not be able to take bounties but they can can attack ships if they are attacked. Moreover, They can be employed to help in killing someone.
The way i see it. Treat all Freelancer IFF's as hostile on sight,and power guns. I sure as hell do,and the last "Freelance Pirate" that told me 2mil or die, Died! I no longer try to RP with them,i just open up with all 12 my Container's guns,and they go boom.(perfectly legal as pirate RP'd according to admins). So way i see it,if you want what alot consider an OORP Pirate with freelancer IFF? Do not expect alot of RP in return.
Now for any Merc's that fire on any lawful? Just screen them,and post in said lawful faction's message dump,and they will become hostile to that faction real quick,and/or destroyed.
Fixed for you. Darling I have char with Pirate id and FL iff that helps even some lawfuls,and Indeed I like to RP with it,Pirate id doesnt mean hostile KOS, look at the NTF for example.
On the topic I see 3 problems:
First :
both IDs are the same
Second:
I find it very annoying when some merc/freelancer attacks my pirate without any reason to do so,I mean no bounty he is not employed by the people being robbed, he just looks for some PvP.I cannot understand in RP why should freelancer or merc risk his his live for some random unknown corporate trader? In RP freelancers must be ignorant to the pirate pirating someone if they cannot make credits from it.
Third:
Stoat's Freelancer Iff and Pirate ID is green to some traders/Hunters/Miners
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:The way i see it. Treat all Freelancer IFF's as hostile on sight,and power guns. I sure as hell do,and the last "Freelance Pirate" that told me 2mil or die, Died! I no longer try to RP with them,i just open up with all 12 my Container's guns,and they go boom.(perfectly legal as pirate RP'd according to admins). So way i see it,if you want what alot consider an OORP Pirate with freelancer IFF? Do not expect alot of RP in return.
Now for any Merc's that fire on any lawful? Just screen them,and post in said lawful faction's message dump,and they will become hostile to that faction real quick,and/or destroyed.
' Wrote:Q_Q I wish I was remotely as cool as you are!
Truly epic conduct mate. Epic!
What can i say. Have not seen any good RP from any of these in a long time,just all PvP whores,so i give it to em back full bore. You want Merc's and freelancer's to be respected? Well then get the 90% PVP whores who use those ID's to start RP'n and earn it. Till then? i am willing,and capable to sink to their level.
PS. On a side note.If Merc's/Freelancer's are so nice. Why were a few working with the hellfire legion to lure in Navy to an ambush other day? and then joining in on the fighting?
ryoken...
We are here to discuss the IDs you are here to Q_Q /Rage/Flame make yourself favour.Stop posting here.
I hope that some mod will clean up the topic.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:PS. On a side note.If Merc's/Freelancer's are so nice. Why were a few working with the hellfire legion to lure in Navy to an ambush other day? and then joining in on the fighting?
Wow, thats -really- bad roleplay from their side. Those things should be sanctionable!
EDIT: Ah yes, my actual opinion on the matter would be: Freelancers and mercenaries should be able to hold their own and may be, given a roleplay reason, attacked by anyone for all I care.
' Wrote:ryoken...
We are here to discuss the IDs you are here to Q_Q /Rage/Flame make yourself favour.Stop posting here.
I hope that some mod will clean up the topic.
Actually you are doing 2 things wrong.
* This is not the thread about ID's
* Stating that ryoken is making fun out of himself is same as to discuss how blue is the sky. Absolutly pointless. Truth is piercing the eyes itself.
THe question was. Do the random ships have right to engage mercinaries and freelancers. D: since their id's state "free to engage (or hunt) pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their zone of influence" and so on. yet there is none said about freelancers or mercinaries in this point. So I just wonder.
Oh.. we are discussing the ID's. That means it only leaves to:
* Stating that ryoken is making fun out of himself is same as to discuss how blue is the sky. Absolutly pointless. Truth is piercing the eyes itself.
* This is not the thread about ID's
* Stating that ryoken is making fun out of himself is same as to discuss how blue is the sky. Absolutly pointless. Truth is piercing the eyes itself.
THe question was. Do the random ships have right to engage mercinaries and freelancers. D: since their id's state "free to engage (or hunt) pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their zone of influence" and so on. yet there is none said about freelancers or mercinaries in this point. So I just wonder.
Oh.. we are discussing the ID's. That means it only leaves to: * Stating that ryoken is making fun out of himself is same as to discuss how blue is the sky. Absolutly pointless. Truth is piercing the eyes itself.
This question of yours feels very based on the situation at hand. If the other party has a logical reason to engage then why should they be hindered to do so?
Logical reasons may include but not limited to:
The Mercenary/Freelancer uses technology that is considered hostile to the other party.
The Mercenary/Freelancer has a history of attacking the other party.
The Mercenary/Freelancer has insulted the other party.
This matter is really based on what group we are talking about and what specific Mercenary/Freelancer we are talking about.
For example, I don't think the Liberty Rogues would care if a random pilot made fun of their women. But sure as hell the Corsairs would.
' Wrote:I read over the IDs on the wiki, Merc/FL actualy are NOT restricted to just attacking for the cash.
So TECHNICHALY they could simply go into rants about people whose ships have pink running lights just so they can attack someone who has pink running lights.
Personaly, I think FLs/Mercs/BHGs should have their IDs alterd with teh following lines
* Can only attack in self defence, unless collecting a valid bounty, escorting, or paid to assist with a fight.
Because as it stands now, when pirating all to often I have folks jump out and randomly attack with (if any message at all) usualy just a basic 'engagin pirat lol' type message (note: I mean folks whom I dont even botehr to pirate because theyre not traders)
If this restriction were added, it would do some to limit issues.
Even if this is post of yours is considered off-topic, according to the Original Poster, I feel the need to comment on it.
So let me get this straight now. Many around here likes to label Mercenaries or Freelancers as PvP-whores. Now you want to restrict their game-play to only taking bounties or any work that provides them with money? So what happens to character indivdiualism and unique sets of Role-Play?
Example: My Mercenary character (Ghost Reaver) is only 1.66 cm tall. He is considered short by many. And he has a height issue. If someone directly makes fun of his height or mention things that makes Ghosty believe they are referring to his height he gets extremely mad and often becomes violent. I'm not allowed to enhance the unique Role-Play that this character possess with your suggestion.
But this isn't just about me. I'm sure there are plenty of other Mercenaries or Freelancers who have other unique sets of Role-Play information that is applied to their characters and affects their way of dealing with different situations. Ranging from personal moral values to background histories.
Finally, your main argument for this ID-change to be installed is based on a few bad apples we have flying around carrying the Mercenary banner. If we go by this logic I suggest that only Official Factions are allowed to fly Capital Ships because yesterday an independent Liberty Navy Cruiser attacked me without warning.
I'm sure you can spot the fallacy in this argument as well.