While S13 is indeed GMG space, I really doubt that Kusari and Rheinland would allow a single group that have no allies apart from Zoners to have any saying over the shortest route between two large houses, especially if supply lines are involved.
If push comes to shove, the GMG might end up getting smacked down to their place by one of the two houses they are between of.
Not really a direct answer to the question, just a what if potential scenario - Tunicle
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That's in-gameplay only Spazzy, not inRP. There would be consequences for Rheinland and Kusari, I'm sure. Westfalen 2.0 let's say. Beginning to drift - Tunicle
Only GMG and few Other factions who have their own teritorys like CR SCRA and Hellfire Legions can do in their own systems as they whant and as they please even levy fines because it's their System theyr house theyr trade lanes theyr Teritory !
Got it ?! Not sure what to get from this apart from unnecessary implied rudeness,. You are misinterpreting the normal usage of the word fines - Tunicle
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I am simply bringing up a point that anyone trying to use a GMG ID for piracy will end up having the faction roflstomped by KNF and RNC indies.
Obvious to the cognoscenti but not totally obvious to new or uniformed players - Tunicle
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(12-30-2014, 09:43 PM)Hauler Wrote: Only GMG and few Other factions who have their own teritorys like CR SCRA and Hellfire Legions can do in their own systems as they whant and as they please even levy fines because it's their System their house theyr trade lanes theyr Teritory !
Got it ?!
Please no need to get upset. We are discussing the GMG ID here and clearly it does not state that the GMG " can do in their systems what they want and as they please"
Doubt it.
Going back to Rheinland as reference, in their eyes it'd be some bunch of fart cloud miners trying to influence their trade routes during the time of war.
If anything, they could even use it as an excuse to steamroll them and take the systems for themselves. Or Kusari could do it.
Anyway, there is not enough activity on the GMG ID to even consider this to be somehow ''faught off'' or something. Unless you want a GMG-RM-KNF threeway with 3 players on the GMG side.
See earlier green - Tunicle
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(12-30-2014, 09:43 PM)Hauler Wrote: Only GMG and few Other factions who have their own teritorys like CR SCRA and Hellfire Legions can do in their own systems as they whant and as they please even levy fines because it's their System their house theyr trade lanes theyr Teritory !
Got it ?!
Please no need to get upset. We are discussing the GMG ID here and clearly it does not state that the GMG " can do in their systems what they want and as they please"
Who said i'm upset i'm just having a diferent opinion the subject of this discusion is well under the ID and rule boundaries as owners of Sigma 13 can do what they whant within their space *aslong as they are within their ID and rules* i'm not saying they can simply engage and pirate anyone threating them with guns if they dont pay cause GMG are not pirates what i'm saying they can make laws rules and decide what is good for them and others and what is not in their own souveren teritory and that is all Sigmas and Okinawa.
True and need to be codified and agree by community, via forum, not in game. Currently however the law has no trade tolls on these systems - Tunicle
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"Steamrolling" would not happen inRP, and in-gameplay Rheinland would very quickly experience some important loss. Stationary jorm in NB, or something. Another discussion perhaps rather than the one posed - Tunicle
Huh, I always forget that GMG has its own space for some reason, my bad. So they should technically be able to enforce their laws in their space. However, the GMG laws say the following about fines:
Quote:3. Fines
3.1 GMG pilots have the option to fine transgressors, confiscate illegal cargo, or both depending on the situation. Your fine will depend on your ship class and the cargo you carry:
Fighters and Bombers will be fined 1,000,000 credits.
Freighters will be fined 1,500,000 credits.
Gunboats and Gunships will be fined 2,000,000 credits.
Transports will be fined between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000 credits.
GMG pilots may add to or subtract from these listed fines if they find it necessary to do so.
3.2 Refusal to cooperate with GMG pilots will immediately mark you as a hostile target and you will be executed at the discretion of the GMG pilot.
3.3 If you successfully resist arrest or refuse to pay a fine, your name will be added to GMG bounty board at the discretion of the GMG pilot.
Since there is nothing about fining people for simply traversing their territory, I'd stick with "No, except Kruger and Samura vessels."
Focused answer, thank you. Does rely on fact that in accepted lore GMG sovereign space seems to be "Sovereign Territories of the GMG (GMG space) - Aomori Station with 7-k radius of space in Honshu, the Sigma-13 system, the Sigma-19 system, Sigma-59, and the Okinawa system." - Tunicle