I would like the communities thoughts on the establishment of a generic pirate faction. Why will this faction be different? The faction itself holds no alleigance to any single faction. They will be a purely nomadic people who form brief frinedships and alliances with other pirate factions as they go. The Varangians are open minded and will take recruits from any pirate factions providing they swear fealty to their new comrades above all else. Each Varangian will have his own RP thread. To begin with this will be a 1000 word (Approx) story detailing how he acquired his ship, weapons and how he came to be separated or exiled from his parent faction. This will be a work in progress and as events occur each of teh Varangians will tell the tale of their exploits from their point of view. Each player will have 1 ship only. There wil be no hoarding of ship classes and NO capitals whatsoever. The group will have access to 1 GB for the entire Varangian faction.
The Varangians may hire out and support any pirate faction willing to pay them. The varangians will actively help any pirate faction against corporations and house factions. varangians will not entertain helping in fights against other pirate factions.
Firstly entry to the faction will be a story based and approved by all members before admittance is given. All storylines must be well thought out with a good timeline evident history to support their ship class and weapons.
Each player agrees to stick to the following rules.
Pirates are pirates. Respect all pirate factions as your borthers and raise your glasses not your guns in their presence.
Blood is thicker than water. The varangian brotherhood must come first and foremost. When you join you relinquish your ties to your former comrades and all rights of that faction. Varangians are your new brothers.
Profit is profit. Where there is a substantial profit to be had by ill gotten gains you will find the varangians. We strike where the routes are most profitable and most likely to yield credits. You have no home other than the ship you fly.
All varangians respect the rules and laws of other pirate factions. They do not seek to displace other pirates and will always be respectfull and polite to other pirates of sirius. We always seek approval to use other pirates bases and maintain a truly neutral stance on inter pirate affairs. Varangians who are pirating will find systems unnocupied by resident factions to perform their piracy. Should resident factions request we leave their area we will do so.
All varangians have their own RP and motives which they RP in game as much as possible. These motivations are to be what defines their character and their way of speaking and actions should be reflective of these drivers.
Diplomacy with the Varangian raiders will be determined by a vote to all members. SHould Varanginas be badly treated or attacked by other pirate factions then a vote may be taken to change the diplomatic status to reflect teh in RP encounters that we haev with other factions. All pirates will begin as neutral and RP will determine how future encounters bias actions. Should Varangians be attacked then we will open hostilities with that faction to remedy the situation. varangians will not be pushovers and will actively protect their interests and self preservation but will be happy to provide services in return for protection and admittance to pirate factions bases.
Acceptable ships in the Varangian raiders will be.... Determined by the RP of the individual. Depending upon the players RP the ship and weapons will be relevant to their past. Each pirate will have his own relevant IFF and all Varangians will carry a generic pirate ID.
ie a corsair born varangian will have titan and corsair weapons. A Rheinland born pirate may well fly a thor. A liberty exile may well have a rogue vessel.
The Varangians will be a truly diverse nomadic tribe who drift periodicaly from system to system and area to area spreading fear and mayhem among houses and corporations while they infest systems on their travels.
' Wrote:Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.
if titan in rheinland doesnt look good imagine how 2 barghests a sabre a thor and 2 eagles will look. Thats not the point each player will have a fully justified past and future.
Maybe the name could just be Varangians.
Sooooo basically you want to take all the lolwuts and put them all in one bucket?
I dont see how it would work, they'd be in competition with other pirates in the same space.
And if they're a mixed, loosely affilitated nomadic people they can't really have diplomacy, because that would conflict with the "rp of the individual" and ship choice. The hessians aren't just going to sell a ship to anyone, that person would have to have ties to the hessians, and that would cause conflict with other members of this group. And the corsairs aren't likely to let someone with hessian ties flying a hessian ship dock at Cadiz no matter how nice they ask.
It sounds like you want Pirate Zoners. You'd need to use your own ships, or neutral ships, and you'd only be able to use neutral bases.
Edit: Also that [V] Looks like it stands for Vagina. No good can come of that.
Trogdor, how do you have the guts to actually write
Quote:Sooooo basically you want to take all the lolwuts and put them all in one bucket?
after he said that they will have access to only one capital ship that won't probably be shared, and that every member needs to write a minimum of 1000 words story.
You could call them powergamers, or out of roleplay, but certainly not lolwut. Gentle, if the roleplay bar will be high, I wish you best of luck, it could work.
Few questions:
Will you pirate cargo or money?
Will you have a friendly pirate organization? I mean, surely you won't be friendly with hessians, corsairs, bucaneers, outcasts and LR at the same time. You have to end up somewhere. Junkers? Zoners?
Basically, I'm just wondering how will others see V, as a constant threat or as "someone elses problem"
' Wrote:Sooooo basically you want to take all the lolwuts and put them all in one bucket?
I dont see how it would work, they'd be in competition with other pirates in the same space.
And if they're a mixed, loosely affilitated nomadic people they can't really have diplomacy, because that would conflict with the "rp of the individual" and ship choice. The hessians aren't just going to sell a ship to anyone, that person would have to have ties to the hessians, and that would cause conflict with other members of this group. And the corsairs aren't likely to let someone with hessian ties flying a hessian ship dock at Cadiz no matter how nice they ask.
It sounds like you want Pirate Zoners. You'd need to use your own ships, or neutral ships, and you'd only be able to use neutral bases.
Does a 1000 word RP history sound like lolwhut behaviour? No i dont think it does and is not the aim here at all. It is unlikely that we would be even inclined to use most pirate bases. Most likely we will seek RP deals with the factions we want to be associated with before attempting to use their bases.
Apologies, it's 4 AM here and my glazed-over eyes must've missed that part. Still, I can see people slapping that [V] in front of their name and skip over the whole 1000-word-story thing, so that they have an excuse to put BH guns on their Order bomber.
' Wrote:Apologies, it's 4 AM here and my glazed-over eyes must've missed that part. Still, I can see people slapping that [V] in front of their name and skip over the whole 1000-word-story thing, so that they have an excuse to put BH guns on their Order bomber.
not likely. I wont allow entry without them demonstrating their RP in game for 2 weeks before joining. And not until the application ie/ 1000 words has passed scrutiny by the admin as a RP character. essentially I want this to be a strictly RP related organisation that is fully vetted and clear on the individuals who take part in it. In addititon the 100 words is basically the character intro. Their thread will be modified after several outings in game to include their latest explits so that their individual story within the Varangians grows as their character takes action. This should put off around 95% of the lolwhut community. I am definately not attempting to just pull together a lolwhut campaigners clan here. I want the players who join this to demonstrate teh highest levels of RP on the server.
He also stated that the equipment will fit their origin, so no mixed loadout as far as I understand. But the point about docking is a valid one I think. To stay neutral your docking rights would be limited to Freeports and junker bases. Latter one would make the Hogosha dislike your, but they already dislike strangers, so I wouldn't care much about that part. just be prepared to get shot at by everyone if you enter Kusari. (Except the GC maybe)
' Wrote:Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.