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RE: Next to Upgrade? - RmJ - 08-27-2013
I need to use my three monitors... <,< I don't have an onboard graphics. And I have no HDMI cable or a monitor designed for it, yet. I am thinking about getting a 23" monitor in place of getting a GFX or CPU. My MB is designed to take the next line of AMD processors, which is why I got it. The PS4 core is the same one I can use on my computer xD.
I am still deathly worried about a bottleneck between my CPU and GPU. My card performs terribly on ARMA II. 23FPS on lower and tweaked settings. Between 40-100FPS outside of cities. However I should be able to do that with midrange settings. Midrange I strike 10FPS in town and 20FPS outside of cities. 30FPS when there is more than 50 AI around and it's spotty.
FL I get almost 180 FPS o.o
RE: Next to Upgrade? - Govedo13 - 08-28-2013
The gaming multi-monitor setups are very high demanding if you play games on them. If not it is ok. I use at work 3 19" 4:3s at default res I guess it was 1280x960 on integrated Intel 4000s Laptop Card and it works perfect for normal office applications on i5 3generation 4 GB DDR3 around 2 years old notebook.
You will need SLI made of 2 Titans GPUs to run Star Citizen properly on 3 Monitors, it is just brutal, as I said in my previous post sadly cards does not scale really well if you increase the numbers.
However connecting 3 monitors for work on any common proper mid/high end card wont be problem, most of the cards have a lot of connection options- you just need the proper cables or adapters if needed and you can game on your main monitor only while using the others for OS etc.
You cannot reach your CPU bottleneck with your card, so you does not need to worry. Today games are really about GPUs I also use ancient CPU on my old gaming PC however 90% of all games run in FullHD without a problem. Only more CPU demanding games have Frame drops sometimes like PlanetSide 2 but I heard that it is just laggy for everyone in big Melees.
You can wait for sure with the CPU update. DDR4 and new type of boards/CPUs would be quite well priced next year at this time, keeping DDR3 board and updating its CPU would be bad idea, great idea would be to sell your DDR3 after 5-8 months because you would be able to buy new DDR4 AND Mobo with the money from your second hand sold DDR3, you just need to finance your new faster DDR4 type CPU.
About the Card is also up to you if you have stuff that does not work now then update now or wait for Star Citizen. There are only few games that are CPU intensive like SC2 and PS2 from the biggest names, 95% are GPU based and CPU is more or less irrelevant if it covers the minimum requirements.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - Kazinsal - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 07:46 AM)Govedo13 Wrote: You cannot reach your CPU bottleneck with your card, so you does not need to worry.
ArmA II is the sole exception I've encountered to this.
God damn game will play better on an i7 with a Radeon 4850 than on an i3 with a Radeon 6850, just because the game is so CPU-dependent for its rendering, I kid you not.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - RmJ - 09-01-2013
Arma II is the ONLY game that makes my CPU/GPU combo unsatisfactory.
Eh DDR4. For some reason I am not into the RAM chasing mode. The board I bought can run the next line of AMD processors, even the PS4's, which is why I got it. I am content running a computer at it is, just want another GPU to run my primary monitor on, and then the secondaries on the secondary GPU.
As for mulitscreen gaming I can maybe see doing that for my Gundam ARMA II mod, but otherwise I won't need it. The other monitors will be, as they're, data screens. I use muli-monitors as tools, not really gaming.
PS....for 30 more dollars I can get a GTX 760 and I have enough to get a 500 dollar card. However, I cannot be that rash. Though the 760 looks interesting. I think Star Citizen would lose marketability if it cannot even support a minimum of THAT CARD. - .- By the time SC comes out I can, buy another core. Basically I'll just rotate as I am with my old computer stuff to my brother's computer. Though my old board, his board now, cannot do next generation AMD processors.
So, 760, 660, 650. Is there ANY documents on SC's minimum base? Because I am losing time for gaming, in a way, so I believe SC will be the last game I'd ever upgrade stuff for. My simulator project is an entirely different beast.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - Beauenheim - 09-01-2013
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/22025/guide-to-can-my-pc-laptop-run-star-citizen/p1
Generally that's what they'll be. People with 4GB of RAM cannot run the Hangar Module.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - RmJ - 09-01-2013
Lol <,< I have 24...I think I got the RAM covered.
Thanks for the link! I'll check it out.
Edit: Because of this link I have discovered my aim far far too low xD. And my monies 100 dollars short. But found my CPU ok. So that's about another 180 dollars saved. So...balances out...I suppose.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - Beauenheim - 09-01-2013
Yeah, I just mentioned the RAM thing because there's a lot of people here who don't have that much.
The requirements are pretty high though.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - RmJ - 09-01-2013
They're high, but I am assuming they're talking about medium to high settings? What about barebone low? Dunno.
I've decided on what I am going to get.
I am also downloading my Hanger alpha
RE: Next to Upgrade? - Beauenheim - 09-01-2013
http://puu.sh/4gcKx.png
Fortunately, with those specs (That's an AMD HD 6850 btw) I can run it on the Very High option. Which, as of right now, is the highest.
EDIT: Also, my RAM runs at 1600 speed.
RE: Next to Upgrade? - RmJ - 09-06-2013
Results are...in! I bought the 760!
<,< And oh my....oh my does it run nicely in games, elsewhere? Not so much. Very glitchy atm. Also I am running my 550Ti exactly as planned.
Well not exactly. I had to hook up a 450watt power supply (force start) just to run both of them at the same time. Very interesting....being able to run 8 monitors......mUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!
So updated specs:
CPU : 1 x AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz (Not currently OC'd)
MB: MSI 970A-G43 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
RAM: 24GB GSkill (32GB Max)
Power: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W
Power2: Turbolink 450W
GPU (1):GTX760(Boost)
GPU(2): GTX550Ti(Fermi)
Wifi: TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 Dual Band Wireless N900 PCI Express Adapter, 2.4GHz 450Mbps/5GHz 450Mbps
Monitor: 1400x900 19"
Monitor 2: 18"
Monitor 3: 18"
HDD1: 1tb
HDD2: 1.2tb