RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Lythrilux - 04-07-2016
(04-07-2016, 07:19 PM)Snak3 Wrote: [21:03:31] PERSON: lol this thread is the new way to get faction perks
[21:03:43] PERSON: Without effort or trouble
Good point. Factions are asking for expanded ZoI without any visible effort towards that end. Along other few things.
I'd disagree. At least for most cases. Factions asking for expanded ZoI in that thread are doing so with RP justification (which is actually the basis for ZoI expansion perks). Or it's to remedy an error that proves detrimental to their activity or lore. Faction perks should be used for additions, not for trying to fix problems that honestly should be done via a Player request (but the staff can be very picky if it's not labelled as a perk). Hence why in my opinion it's entirely suitable for people to be proposing IDs to fix aforementioned problems.
Of course, it's the staff who decide at the end of the day what floats and what doesn't.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Garrett Jax - 04-07-2016
(04-07-2016, 07:19 PM)Snak3 Wrote: [21:03:31] PERSON: lol this thread is the new way to get faction perks
[21:03:43] PERSON: Without effort or trouble
Good point. Factions are asking for expanded ZoI without any visible effort towards that end. Along other few things.
I foresee much disappointment in the near future.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Pinko - 04-07-2016
Fix Unioner ID, allow them to shoot Republican shipping pls
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Lythrilux - 04-07-2016
If you have a proposal, go suggest it. Anyone can make a proposal.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - nOmnomnOm - 04-07-2016
(04-07-2016, 08:58 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: If you have a proposal, go suggest it. Anyone can make a proposal.
(04-04-2016, 06:13 PM)Drrobe Wrote: For the next two weeks, we'd like representatives for each of the ID's, faction leader or not, follow the template below with their suggestions.
but i guess there is no representative for Unioners
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Lythrilux - 04-08-2016
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=137721&pid=1763010#pid1763010
For public awareness this post is a complete joke and Impy made it only to spite Core/me. There's the distinct element of a complete ignorance of Core lore and history. I hope the staff don't take it seriously.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - moebus - 04-08-2016
(04-07-2016, 07:04 PM)Captain Wrote: well depends on the definition of unlawful,
piracy is an unlawful act by house governments,
because it is against the law,
smuggling is as well within those houses against the law thus an unlawful act,
think of the country you live in, it has laws in place, some countries ban prostitution,
meaning if you prostitute you are acting against the law aka unlawfull
hopefully that clarifies the "cannot participate in unlawful actions" part
I agree, but it becomes complex to apply in game since for smuggling you have to know the status of all commodities in every Sirius region.
In my opinion each statement of the ID must short and be easy to apply without the need to go on the forums for additional information.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - WesternPeregrine - 04-10-2016
"Bounty Hunters Guild ID
The Bounty Hunters Guild is a well-established mercenary group who specialise in hunting down criminals and terrorists. Originating from the formerly institutionalised masses of Houston, the Guild has managed to spread its business all across Liberty, Bretonia, Kusari and Rheinland. In regards to Gallia, the BHG treat the Council as the legal governing body, and the GRN as unlawful tyrants. A large number of bounty hunters are ex-criminals. All unlawfuls treat the Bounty Hunters as enemies.
The pilot carrying this lawful ID is a member of the Bounty Hunters Guild who:
Is allowed to do the following anywhere:
-Can trade
-Can defend itself, ships and bases of the same affiliation, and allied ships
Is allowed to do the following within their Zone of Influence:
-Can fulfill lawful or Council bounty and escort contracts
-Can treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them
-Can engage any unlawful ships. Unbountied transports with more than 4,300 cargo are exempted from this
Is not allowed to do the following:
-Cannot fulfill unlawful or Gallic lawful bounty and escort contracts
-Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo
-Cannot participate in unlawful actions except as described above
ZOI: Bretonia, Kusari, Liberty, Rheinland, Omegas, Sigmas, Taus, Bering, Coronado, Cortez, Galileo, Hudson, Inverness, Kansas, Kepler, Languedoc, Magellan, Omicron Rho, Omicron Theta, Puerto Rico
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats"
"Unione Corse ID
The Unione Corse is a highly organized quasi-lawful criminal syndicate within Gallia which focuses on smuggling and controlling the black market in Gallia while operating primarily legal trade to cover its tracks. The Corse also do mercenary work for many groups, and are rumored to pirate hostile groups but generally do not attack targets inside Gallia. They are rumored to control the distribution of the Nox narcotic and production of Hypnotainment Bands, which are illegal in Gallia and Kusari. They are most closely allied with the Maquis and Gallic Brigands.
Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a member of Unione Corse who:
Is allowed to do the following anywhere:
-Can trade
-Can defend itself and ships with the same affiliation
-Can fulfill any bounty and escort contracts
-Can treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them
Is allowed to do the following within their Zone of Influence:
-Can attack lawfuls, unlawfuls and quasi-lawfuls in self-defense, to protect an allied or neutral lawful or quasi-lawful ship, or in defense of a base of the same affiliation
-Can demand contraband and levy fines against ships in violation of the laws of the Gallia, then attack them if they refuse to comply, but within Gallia sovereign house space only. Ships belonging to the Maquis are exempted from this
-Can demand cargo and credits from ships, then attack them if they refuse to comply, but outside of Gallic sovereign house space only
Is not allowed to do the following:
-Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo
ZOI: Gallia, systems directly bordering Gallia, Taus, Kyushu, Edinburgh
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats"
Sure thing BHG can do only lawful (and Council) bounties, but others who are able to take the unlawful side should be limited by a zoi at least.
Impy noticed a similar situation on my Hogosha proposal, which I'm on the way to fix.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Pinko - 04-10-2016
(04-10-2016, 10:16 PM)WPeregrine Wrote:
"Bounty Hunters Guild ID
The Bounty Hunters Guild is a well-established mercenary group who specialise in hunting down criminals and terrorists. Originating from the formerly institutionalised masses of Houston, the Guild has managed to spread its business all across Liberty, Bretonia, Kusari and Rheinland. In regards to Gallia, the BHG treat the Council as the legal governing body, and the GRN as unlawful tyrants. A large number of bounty hunters are ex-criminals. All unlawfuls treat the Bounty Hunters as enemies.
The pilot carrying this lawful ID is a member of the Bounty Hunters Guild who:
Is allowed to do the following anywhere:
-Can trade
-Can defend itself, ships and bases of the same affiliation, and allied ships
Is allowed to do the following within their Zone of Influence:
-Can fulfill lawful or Council bounty and escort contracts
-Can treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them
-Can engage any unlawful ships. Unbountied transports with more than 4,300 cargo are exempted from this
Is not allowed to do the following:
-Cannot fulfill unlawful or Gallic lawful bounty and escort contracts
-Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo
-Cannot participate in unlawful actions except as described above
ZOI: Bretonia, Kusari, Liberty, Rheinland, Omegas, Sigmas, Taus, Bering, Coronado, Cortez, Galileo, Hudson, Inverness, Kansas, Kepler, Languedoc, Magellan, Omicron Rho, Omicron Theta, Puerto Rico
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats"
"Unione Corse ID
The Unione Corse is a highly organized quasi-lawful criminal syndicate within Gallia which focuses on smuggling and controlling the black market in Gallia while operating primarily legal trade to cover its tracks. The Corse also do mercenary work for many groups, and are rumored to pirate hostile groups but generally do not attack targets inside Gallia. They are rumored to control the distribution of the Nox narcotic and production of Hypnotainment Bands, which are illegal in Gallia and Kusari. They are most closely allied with the Maquis and Gallic Brigands.
Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a member of Unione Corse who:
Is allowed to do the following anywhere:
-Can trade
-Can defend itself and ships with the same affiliation
-Can fulfill any bounty and escort contracts
-Can treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them
Is allowed to do the following within their Zone of Influence:
-Can attack lawfuls, unlawfuls and quasi-lawfuls in self-defense, to protect an allied or neutral lawful or quasi-lawful ship, or in defense of a base of the same affiliation
-Can demand contraband and levy fines against ships in violation of the laws of the Gallia, then attack them if they refuse to comply, but within Gallia sovereign house space only. Ships belonging to the Maquis are exempted from this
-Can demand cargo and credits from ships, then attack them if they refuse to comply, but outside of Gallic sovereign house space only
Is not allowed to do the following:
-Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo
ZOI: Gallia, systems directly bordering Gallia, Taus, Kyushu, Edinburgh
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats"
Sure thing BHG can do only lawful (and Council) bounties, but others who are able to take the unlawful side should be limited by a zoi at least.
Impy noticed a similar situation on my Hogosha proposal, which I'm on the way to fix.
The thing is, the UC are Gallia's BHG, even lawful-wise.
RE: ID Changes/Rework Discussion Thread - Impyness - 04-10-2016
Right, but UC taking bounties in Rheinland or Liberty is a bit odd.
Especially when on the reverse side with the current proposals BHG cant actually take bounties outside of its incredibly specific ZOI. I'll be suggesting changes for both most likely, it's just p weird to note.
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