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Potential suggestions to improve Phantom and Character interactions - AJBeast - 08-28-2009
Ok , so , I have tried to read everything in this post and miserably failed at it. Here is my opinion anyways:
From my point of view , the Phantoms need to be re-evaluated as a faction. Their in-game RP excluding a few examples is downright pityfull. What good is it to have a truckload of forum RP if you cant act it out in-game , right ?
People have flamed them over and over again and to be honest , many of them do seem to have a point ( the ones that do exibit the mental capacity to do anything but idiotic unfounded flames). As of now , the name "Phantom" is equivalent to "Admins & Friends PvPWhoring Super Squad" in alot of peoples minds.
So yeah , suggestions: Re-evaluate your RP in-game , change some things in the forum one too if you have to. Stop behaving like evil supermen.
Potential suggestions to improve Phantom and Character interactions - teschy - 08-28-2009
' Wrote:Stop behaving like evil supermen.
Well I suppose that's what the Phantoms are in RP. Evil super men.
And I do agree, game RP > forum RP.
Potential suggestions to improve Phantom and Character interactions - Virus - 08-29-2009
' Wrote:there has been a very positive change in the admin team lately... i have seen them publicly announce that they made wrong decisions. - i don t know how that came into being... but that is showing a touch of humanity and human error that every player can understand. - it gives players the feeling that they are no subjects, but beings. ( i seriously mean it - its a VERY positive thing... that might also have happened in the past... but not as a public apology to those falsly accused - that has not really happened in "the old days" )I blame Cannon, Korrd, and I for this change (mostly Cannon, to be honest). Much of the new system was Cannon and I trying to piece together a functional method of things when Del and Hoodlum disappeared. So far, it seems to be working. I hope that when Hoodlum and and the good Reverend return, they can adjust easily.
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cause no one is so good to always give out good roleplay.
everyone ( without ANY exceptions ) gives brilliant roleplay one day - and utterly silly and stupid one another.
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- they are no server police - so they must not act as such
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*farmers alliance bomber? - don t the phantoms have their own ships now?
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REAL fear is often subtle.
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Admitting our mistakes. I'm trying to get into a bigger habit of doing that. It's something that seems to be working with the Admins, and well... Might as well try it with the Phantoms.
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Farmer's Alliance bomber makes sense and was approved by admins who are not part of the Phantoms (or were not at the time). Besides that, we don't have... Any bomber at all. This is something I discussed in the other thread. Unfortunately, it seems that equipment-wise, much of the Phantom equipment has been half-assed. Guns don't have a matching color-scheme (fixing) and, apart from the Shadow/Raven Claw, we were simply given ships that didn't fit anywhere (see Huntress+Slipstream). That's fine, and I use both the Shadow and the Umbrage (Huntress) because they're nice ships and fit... Better than anything else available. The Slipstream is used by a surprisingly large number of Phantoms (Pitchfork, Puzzle off the top of my head).
Of course, I wouldn't be distraught if someone wanted to model us a full ship-line (or just a bomber!), but the few people I have asked have either not gotten to it, or have straight up said no.
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Real fear... I've been a Phantom for a long, long time. The old tricks don't seem to work anymore. Things we used to do are now ... Well, people downright flame us for it. I've been trying to come up with new ways and we keep coming up blank. There's a few new recruits I've given little information about our SOP to see what they do as Phantoms and see if it's any better than what we currently do.
Any suggestions you can provide would be most helpful. Public or in PM, doesn't matter.
' Wrote:Re-evaluate your RP in-game
Does this even mean anything? Correct me if I am wrong, but your entire post boils down to this, mate. I can't work with this. You suggest nothing that is wrong, and you suggest no possible alternatives. Re-evaluate what I believe to generally pretty good (barely passable at the worst:dry:). Of course, I would be glad to listen to whatever you suggestions you have (you know my Skype) apart from gripes about the below.
If you're still complaining about Ze'ev killing you... Well, you insulted someone who feels that he is better than the average person and absolutely has a burning hatred for Junkers. To not attack you in a blind fury would be... Odd. (Unless I remember the event incorrectly.)
Potential suggestions to improve Phantom and Character interactions - Lunaphase - 08-29-2009
The only event i have ever had with the keepers was these 3 times. the first time, in my tradeship. In taus. Empty. Why would they chose to blow up an independant trader? how does this possibly further their goal to bring down a house? A miner just trying to make a living is not the enemy of the phantoms, strategically wise. Why waste your ammo and fuel? What do you gain from killing 4 more people just trying to get by?
the second time, was admittedly in my juggernought, Nightsmoke did an RP with me and engraved my chars sword (which rp wise is still carried by my character in the IL-Atonement and the IL-Cypher) Although, dont know if this was becuase he had nothing that COULD dent me or the fact i dident jump in and barrage him.
The third time, was on my order ship the Atonement, and got NO rp out of a phantom whatsoever, just silence. Passing within 2k of my vessal, in gunrange, and not even a hello? in minor?
I think you could perhaps improve your ingame rp by showing a willingness to actually TALK to those who clearly show they want to roleplay. on my tradeship i was humble and asked for mercy, got none, and so fought to the death. This makes sense, perhaps. But when your goal is downing houses what are you boys doing wrecking miners in the taus anyway?
Also, if your going through someones home system and they try to talk instead of just open fire.. at least perhaps acnoledge them...? I was honorable and did not fire upon a lone fighter. Why can i not at least get a nod or anything?
If you dont want to read that, its fine. The sum of it is this: There are many that WANT to roleplay with the phantoms, and are never given the chance to. Give that chance, and see where it leads. The reason many players think somthing along the lines of "crap,im gonna die" is because 90% of the general rp with the phantoms ends up with the non-phantom exploding, despite trying to have a good roleplay moment.
Potential suggestions to improve Phantom and Character interactions - cobraSting - 08-29-2009
coming form a n00b, this may be a bit much, but:
protip 1: Read Nomad lore instead of making assumptions about Keepers. I did read the lore, and it has revolutionized my understanding of nomads
protip 2: There is a roleplay reason for SCRA to be in Liberty, and that's to discuss possible alliance with the LRF. Don't assume that we are lolwutters, because SCRA is arguable one of the factions hardest to get in.