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RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Zen_Mechanics - 08-19-2013
None of the above, but that's the mentality you may face in these places - and the self-rightouess will ofcourse deny such things - its more likely to find a pub in Iran. Anyways, I've made my position clear on this matter, Its should stay free - to all, regardless of who claims to be offended ~ it's part of the RP experience so I do hope they'll get along with it.
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Doria - 08-19-2013
No, man. First, there were a lot of people complaining when TAZ decided to turn Mala to hostile mode... there was even a rather tense aguing with the outcasts about it... but TAZ can explain you better...
But the reason why other zoner factions did not complain about it is because TAZ is the official Baffin faction, while you are overstepping Phoenix on the process of defending 74. That's all. Puerto Rico is a good example, but who built the base there? The congress did, the official faction. You see the difference?
Its on the server rules that indie factions have to follow the official faction diplomacy, and you have not done that. All the other points you made, and the fact that you achieved to build the bases is irrelevant, cause all started by breaking a rule. To me that's very clear.
But, hey!, who cares, right? Keep you bases, you ships, keep docking whales in house planets if you want. I'll just keep on ignoring you, you do not affect my game not even a little. I'm just writing this here cause I'm home sick anyway, or else I wouldn't waste my time over this.........
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Zen_Mechanics - 08-19-2013
For your information those bases aren't mine but one ( guard-74 ) - and I have no control over it - and even If i have been cast out from there I would still not go anti-wise and shoot them. And I must say it's the first time someone says the truth, most times I hear em say they are there to conquer the system *laughs*.
Point blank, Phoenix holds the generic ID but indie factions are not bound to follow their diplomacy. Indies as individuals do - and Infact I wish them very well, Indeed the same ganksters woke up and phoenix for the first time did not do anything ( maybe because they are allowed to pass anytime - but don't know ) -
Following the original point, Nicholas trade center is right there at O-49 - Yet O-40 is not owned by OSI, so the whole "official factions - in their official systems can build " theory breaks.
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Anaximander - 08-19-2013
(08-19-2013, 11:31 AM)SMI-Great.Fox Wrote: I still don't see how your can connect Baffin to the situations in O-74. When we built Mal Freeport, we only set it to hostile due to the fact that there wasnt a blacklist we could use to simply add those who were hostile.
Tel. No offense, but you don't need to put your nose into an area you know little about, let alone argue over it.
Yeah, Mala was far worse than the O-74 one, because Mala thrived on the fact that the faction that you are now gunning to lead was inactive or just plain impotent and haven't really cared about Outcasts as a whole for the longest time, even though lore-wise a hostile Mala should have had super severe consequences due to the regional political power-balance stemming back to Vanilla, blocking of über-vital trade routes and so on, whereas O-74 is an insignificant system to anyone but Zoners and a minuscule and thus politically more or less insignificant Order terrorist faction.
Sure, there were some technical reasons regarding how you run bases, but it could have been handled much more delicately, something TAZ and Zoners in general used to honor in their roleplay.
EDIT: To be a little bit constructive (for a change
) how about bringing bases back and making sure they cannot be built within 20K of any static objects. Sure inrp it can make a lot of sense to block off systems by using bases, but at the other hand we are playing a computer game here which is supposed to be fun; and blocking systems can be extremely harmful to server gameplay. IMO gameplay and fun trumps "I can haz bass cuz my faction strong in roleplay" - I know if I was to log in again and play this game, it would be with the purpose of having fun, however ludicrous that might sound.
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Sabru - 08-19-2013
(08-19-2013, 03:16 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Following the original point, Nicholas trade center is right there at O-49 - Yet O-40 is not owned by OSI, so the whole "official factions - in their official systems can build " theory breaks.
thats because OSI never laid any claim to O-49. so your badly done counterpoint is broken.
O-49 is a system for all zoners. same as O-74. which is a fact you and the lolwut brigade dont seem to understand with your bases of derpyness.
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Highland Laddie - 08-19-2013
Quote:how about bringing bases back and making sure they cannot be built within 20K of any static objects
That's ridiculously too far. No closer than 5k to any Jump hole, Gate, or NPC base is more than necessary.
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Anaximander - 08-19-2013
^Yeah that too, it was just some random number i threw out there. Far enough away from stuff to not shut down traffic completely is what I meant.
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Doria - 08-19-2013
That mininum distance suggestions seems good to me... I always read in all Sci-FI books and TV series and stuff that a jump, by warmhole or jumpdrive, was a dangerous thing, even for an advanced model ship... And that a natural wormhole is always somewhat unstabble, so its logical that building a base too near a jumphole would be too stressful for the base structure to be safe... just my 5 cents (my ideas are more valuable!
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RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Azan27 - 08-19-2013
This is why we can't have nice things...
RE: Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases - Zen_Mechanics - 08-19-2013
(08-19-2013, 03:57 PM)Sabre Wrote:(08-19-2013, 03:16 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Following the original point, Nicholas trade center is right there at O-49 - Yet O-40 is not owned by OSI, so the whole "official factions - in their official systems can build " theory breaks.
thats because OSI never laid any claim to O-49. so your badly done counterpoint is broken.
O-49 is a system for all zoners. same as O-74. which is a fact you and the lolwut brigade dont seem to understand with your bases of derpyness.
And now I realize why no one likes you. Oh well. Pope you said?