(05-03-2020, 02:35 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: Sure, if you're on a GB and a swarm of snubs is attacking you,

(05-03-2020, 02:35 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: I agree that GBs need decently balanced anti-snub offense. I don't think the current state of GB anti-snub is good.

But Vandals were just a lazy and zero-skill way to cheese snubs and ruin snub fights for other players. Sure, if you're on a GB and a swarm of snubs is attacking you, Vandal isn't that great. Your better off with a full turret setup. But if there is an existing snub fight and even one Vandal GB rocks up, it's incredibly annoying and very unbalanced for the existing fight and the snubs now have to deal with people lazily spamming the torp key, firing a missile at you that may randomly instant kill you and your teammates out of the blue. It was basically the oldschool NEMP but for use against snubs - which is ironic, because the Infocard for it says it's anything but, so maybe people will start to use them for their intended purpose?

The presence of a single Vandal GB was enough to suck the enjoyment out of a snub encounter. Yes, there are other ship classes, the world doesn't revolve around GBs sapping the fun out of other people's fights just because they want an effortless kill.

(05-03-2020, 02:37 AM)Saronsen Wrote: tl;dr

(05-03-2020, 02:35 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: Sure, if you're on a GB and a swarm of snubs is attacking you,

you die

gunboats are entirely useless against more than two small craft unless the gunboat is specifically a very good pilot, or the fighters are actually just braindead and impulsing at the gunboat

(05-03-2020, 02:45 AM)Charo Wrote:

(05-03-2020, 02:35 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: I agree that GBs need decently balanced anti-snub offense. I don't think the current state of GB anti-snub is good.

But Vandals were just a lazy and zero-skill way to cheese snubs and ruin snub fights for other players. Sure, if you're on a GB and a swarm of snubs is attacking you, Vandal isn't that great. Your better off with a full turret setup. But if there is an existing snub fight and even one Vandal GB rocks up, it's incredibly annoying and very unbalanced for the existing fight and the snubs now have to deal with people lazily spamming the torp key, firing a missile at you that may randomly instant kill you and your teammates out of the blue. It was basically the oldschool NEMP but for use against snubs - which is ironic, because the Infocard for it says it's anything but, so maybe people will start to use them for their intended purpose?

The presence of a single Vandal GB was enough to suck the enjoyment out of a snub encounter. Yes, there are other ship classes, the world doesn't revolve around GBs sapping the fun out of other people's fights just because they want an effortless kill.

Please name a time when missiles of any class have not been ez mode. It's a skill balancer

(05-03-2020, 02:48 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: Do I need to bring up all the times Impy and I would just fly GBs with dual missiles (good ol' RM + Bret missile for that 20k damage) and just absolutely crap on all and any snubs with minimal effort? And this wasn't even in existing fights, that brief period where OG GB missiles did hull damage would let you sweep groups if you had the right loadout. In existing fights, it was just a curbstomp and an unbeatable support loadout.

(05-03-2020, 03:06 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: But they're not skillbalancers. In the majority of cases, they're skill removers and just take the fun out of the encounter.