' Wrote:most people say the same thing about the keepers, wilde, and phantoms.

Pre-4.85, the order had, as I said, some of the most well respected independent players on the server - they worked well with the official order faction, and life was good. Lolwutting was almost nonexistent among the order.

Then 4.85 came, and now there are more carriers in the order than there are fighters and bombers combined - and 95% of those carriers are lolwutters looking to blow up people with as little rp effort as possible. These mangy brainless apes have infiltrated my faction and ruined it, and I'm not too pleased about that fact.

This conversation came up several times during 4.84, about making the order an invite only group like the nomads/wild/phantoms, but it just keeps getting shot down, and usually it's shot down by the people who are causing problems in the first place. Hard to argue with the vocal majority.