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Pirating demands - Vladimir - 11-23-2009
Quote:I told him it was not possible to give him that, so instead of haggling, he just did what he came there to do: blow me up.
It's what pirates are supposed to do. Why do you think people pay them, because they like them? No, because they kill those who don't pay.
Ah, and this.
>The main reason I'm asking is because there's someone who's been doing this repeatedly.
Why running into him again and again? Use other routes or stay dead/shipless for a bit, for RP's sake.
Not to mention the escorts again.
Pirating demands - Exsiled_one - 11-23-2009
If you demand 10million from a player who has no amount of cash like that (ie his level is waay below someone who has 10mil), and you do it constantly that's a nice ground for breaking the rule 0.0
fairness to others.
I'll say it once more:
If you want to pirate for cash, you can't really go high unless you catch a miner thats LOADED with cash.
if you happen to find a level 50 miner with 5k of gold ore, then guess what, you can demand that cash all you want, you're not getting it.
it's your fault you don't have a damn transport around.
You can kidnap the guy and contact an transport, as long as you dont hold the guy forever, and transport comes, it's a valid piracy.
Pirating demands - Gaz83 - 11-23-2009
' Wrote:Not to mention the escorts again.
Ok then answer this, do you provide escorts?
Pirating demands - Akura - 11-23-2009
Overall, I'd call it a PvP abuse.. and effing retarded to demand say, 10 mil from a Freighter, I guess it's the Admins disgression to judge the stupidity of the request.
Pirating demands - Mere_Mortal - 11-23-2009
Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think there are any neutral or unlawful bases that pay good money for ore, so there is little point in a pirate taking this commodity unless they have a Junker or Hogosha friend nearby. I actually spent a few days roaming around with a thousand ore that I looted because I couldn't get rid of it, until I had it robbed from me by a miner! That's karma I suppose. Anyway, the point is that the pirate is either getting a good pay or virtually nothing from a miner. In fact, there's as much chance of taking a full round of level 2 transport turrets in either scenario. As for the average transport that is carrying bulk products, a pirate can often sell these at their own base or at least somewhere within their usual house or the nearest Freeport. That is not the case with ore as only a few refineries will pay anything over a few credits. In Liberty, silver ore is useless and likewise gold ore is to Kusarian pirates, unless the Junkers or Hogosha could negotiate some shady deals in Kusari or Rheinland respectively.
In other words, a pirate must be a little more tactful when targeting a miner.
Pirating demands - Vladimir - 11-23-2009
' Wrote:Ok then answer this, do you provide escorts?
In our group we have some bounty hunter characters who guard us at mining point and on our way to selling point. It is YOU who should care about it. I do and i don't get blown up in my tanker full of platinum ore.
On the other hand, when i'm a pirate, i dont blow up people who try to lower the tax. I dont meet many of such people, actually, as i demand more then 3 millions only if this guy annoys me in some way. And i find it completely reasonable that i can demand something like diving into a sun and then blow this guy to pieces if he is lolwutting or... well, annoying me. However, when some guy pays me 1m after being asked for 2 and crying about low credits and when he's away he is starting to laugh about how did he trick me, well, those times make me less willing to lower the taxes.
Pirating demands - SeaFalcon - 11-23-2009
When i tax a dude in my pirate it would be 1k times every pice of cargo so 5k cargo is 5mill tax and 3k cargo is 3mill tax.
And if i fine a smuggler its 100 times every cargo pice.
and if caught again smuggler drop the whole load.
Never had trouble so far with people unable to pay. I also dont tax under lvl 50.
Pirating demands - schlurbi - 11-23-2009
' Wrote:When i tax a dude in my pirate it would be 1k times every pice of cargo so 5k cargo is 5mill tax and 3k cargo is 3mill tax.
Thats a fine example of bad demands. I myself wont go higher than two Million Credits. And that only if I see a Transport level 77+. I will be pretty sure that he would have enough cash.
If I pirate for the size of a Transport....I can buy me a new Mastodon and only have 2 Million Credits. What if someone throws a 5 Million Credit demand onto my head?
If you want to play a Pirate, you dont need excessive demands. It's about the demand by itself. You play a pirate to have fun, not earning yourself money for your new Cruiser. If I do my Half Million Demands, I first earn more than I would with 2 Million Demands. More people will pay the 500K instead the 2 Mill.
Pirating demands - Akura - 11-23-2009
I rob people of silly things, like a single cargo unit, or a song.
Money is no object, and people love money.
I'll rob em for 10 credits if need be.
Unless it's and ore hauler, then I do believe that all of that ore is mine thanks.
Pirating demands - kuth - 11-23-2009
' Wrote:When i tax a dude in my pirate it would be 1k times every pice of cargo so 5k cargo is 5mill tax and 3k cargo is 3mill tax.
Good way to get nothing then. Pirating 1mil per 1k cargo is extremely poor form, it has been said so many times on this forum. Factions that did so changed thier policies because the community felt it was bad form.
Traders: 1-2mil is the standard. Maybe up to 5mil if RP warrants it; and "he has 5k cargo" is not the RP that warrants it. Any higher than that and you are walking the line on PvP abuse.
Miners: Admins have said you can expect to see 10mil+ demands if you have a full load and get caught.
As for the topic. Screen shot it and post a sanction. I had a guy demand 10mil from me to pass through 1 system. I told him that was unreasonable and offered him 2mil to escort me. He killed me. He then refused to talk to me about it. Or anyone else for that matter. Last time I saw him online he was in Bastille. These are the pirates that give other pirates a bad name, wish the good pirates would pirate them too!