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The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - McNeo - 05-21-2008
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Also, I'd be happy if you showed me in the rules where it says that this ship is restricted.
I'd be happy if anyone could show me in the rules where it says that civilian guns are restricted... Oh look, that isn't there either.
I do not like the black market arguement one bit, honestly. Its the results that bug me more than anything else, when I see Outcasts fighting Corsairs, both flying the same ship, as both legally can. I have to accept it, because what else can I do?
Technically, the Xenos cannot afford Eagles or Civilian bombers. They can only afford hawks and the odd falcon and blazer. But here's the thing. The RP is bent in a way to make it fair for the Xenos so they can at least defend themselves when the uber capzorz come waltzing down aisle one, gunning for Ouray or Barrow. I do not think that this should be bent anymore to allow anything other than the Eagle and Civilian bomber. Also, I think we can all agree that the RT doesn't really convey a "Xeno feel" to it.
"Its sold on a Zoner base" doesn't really work either, as a lot of things are sold on a Zoner base. Can a Corsair or Outcast use an Eagle because its sold on a Zoner base? I wouldn't think so unless there was an RP reason for it.
The IMG arguement is okay though, and in the spirit of compromise, a few RTs for the upper echelons of Xeno leadership may be available. It would not be mainstream though, as Liberty may view this as the IMG supplying their enemy and take appropriate action to purge the IMG in their zone of influence. Like the IMG hasn't got enough problems already, with Outcasts and the Kusari/Bretonia war.
Thats my two pence, which is like four cents.
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - Tenacity - 05-21-2008
Quote:If it should only be the ships they make themselves, let's limit it to ships only purchasable on Xeno bases.
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Wait a second...
There aren't any!
Finally we've gotten rid of the xeno menace!
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - jammi - 05-21-2008
*shakes head* Not that easily you don't! We have our own fighter in the pipe work, the Blazer MkII.
I suppose Xenos could use the RT, but I don't like it. Like McNeo said, it dosn't have a Xeno feel to it
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - tfmachad - 05-21-2008
' Wrote:I'd be happy if anyone could show me in the rules where it says that civilian guns are restricted... Oh look, that isn't there either.If you ask anyone who has talked to me about this subject you'll learn that I'm quite contrary to civilian guns being restricted at all.
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' Wrote:...I don't like fresh grapes with chocolate fondue. Even though both are delicious, I think they don't go well with each other.
I do not like the black market arguement one bit, honestly.
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The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - Jihadjoe - 05-21-2008
' Wrote:I only wonder why one wouldn't want to fly the Eagle to fly the Raven's Brick.
EDIT: Sorry. As for the answer, on my part, I can't see why not. I mean, anything that's gone into the civilian market can't be restricted much.
My merc flys that brick, I would like to fly something else but it will do. I chose it due to its looks. It looks mean and nasty and vaguely menacing.
It also looks a bit expensive. That would be me only arguement with the Xeno's using it.
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - Tenacity - 05-21-2008
we should just change the marauder to a xeno ship and put it up for sale on ouray.
Here ya go, have the ship nobody wants.
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - Obscured - 05-21-2008
I agree that as far as looks go, RT isnt much of a xeno type ship. But, i dont think that is much of an argument though.
One more thing that could be important is the energy issue, as the eagle cant handle more than 2 black widows and some shield busters, not to mention 4 solid hull guns plus shield busters. Yes, this is a kind of a pvp argument, but fighting is an important part of RP, otherwise i dont see why someone would go with capships on a faction that has no ships of its own, let alone caps. You cant do much RP if you're dead.
As for the ''flies like a brick'' part, i tend to disagree there. I'd take on any fighter in my RT any day, and twice on sunday:P
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - bluntpencil2001 - 05-22-2008
Go for it. No reason not to.
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - Dusty Lens - 05-22-2008
Heavens, this questioned spawned a fine howd'ya do!
The Ravon Talon, a viable Xeno ship? - pim - 05-22-2008
1) This IS a good ship... Probably not the best, but a good one...
2) I don't see ANY point where xenos could borrow it. Ok, leaders could have enough money and influence to do it, but then, any Xeno would !
3) About no ship sold in Xeno bases, fix it with admins, this will definitly bring a solution : if it's sold, OK, never mind...:unsure: If not... *I'll not flame this time...*