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Colonial Remnant ID - Rommie - 03-21-2010
' Wrote:So that means players who RP can use it?Most of it.I'm not such a high ranking member so that I can take decisions like this one.It was only my point of view
Colonial Remnant ID - Atreides2 - 03-21-2010
Look how it is with the things. We have 2 kind of people : Citizens and legal residents.
Citizens , they served in the fleet, have full rights etc etc etc.
Legal residents , are people that aspiring to become a legal resident , considerate an Auxilari for the fleet. Just no CR iff and ID.
And if you want CR Indie , SRP and then we are all happy cause at least we are aware that we can't screw more then we can ( we as a faction) and you for being able to RP as Colonial , but as Citizen , fleet have the =CR=.
And yes Elrainn , you are right , not all indies are bad , but in the taus we then got the rotten apples .
I think we talked about indies sometime ago , if i am not mistaken .
Colonial Remnant ID - pieguy259 - 03-21-2010
No, I wouldn't say it's particularly wry. Just seems to me to spell out what you can and can't do as a Colonial. No dry humour there.
Colonial Remnant ID - Bobthemanofsteel - 03-21-2010
' Wrote:And Bobthemanofsteel ,i prefer not to enter that matter now , not on this thread.
And to answer your reply .
No we are not better then LN , BAF , KNF or any other factions , but we are trying , at least for that give us credits a bit:). Part of the policy is to be part of the faction , both inRP and ooRP , and that should remain.
I understand, every faction wants to be the best that it can be.
But no faction will be better than another, at least in the grand scheme of things, and talking at least about officials. We all (mostly) do different things, but every other faction with the potential of great RP like the CR, is open.
Of course no Offense to the SCRA, or Nommies, their RP potential is also mighty, it's just that they need to be regulated for.. obvious reasons.
Colonial Remnant ID - Beagle23 - 03-21-2010
' Wrote:I understand, every faction wants to be the best that it can be.
But no faction will be better than another, at least in the grand scheme of things, and talking at least about officials.
What do you mean exactly, no faction will be better than another?
' Wrote:Of course no Offense to the SCRA, or Nommies, their RP potential is also mighty, it's just that they need to be regulated for.. obvious reasons.
What reasons would these be?
Colonial Remnant ID - n00bl3t - 03-21-2010
' Wrote:That actually seems to make perfect sense to me, rather than being elitist. If it is elitist, well, it's been going on like this for a very long time and nobody's told the faction off for being elitist, so it's perhaps stealth elitism or somesuch that has only now been detected.
The Nomads also have the power to change the story of Discovery, but you have to apply to the Keepers. The Phantoms also have the power to change the story of Discovery, but you have to apply to them. The Coalition also have the power to change the story of Discovery, but you have to apply to them.
The Coalition represents an entire side from the Alliance/Coalition war, why aren't you including them in this proposal? I like their ships, I'd like to make an indie Coalition, but I looked at their recruitment once and it was some kind of confusingly obtuse thread where you were dicing with death to get in or something and it didn't quite really make sense. That's fine, it's their faction, I didn't start posting about how I should be entitled to their stuff without going by their application and rules. So again, why not include the Coalition in this, for example?
It could also be worsened. Again, I could say I believe the RP of the Keepers, Coalition or Phantoms would be bettered by indy involvement. It sounds very good and gracious, but of your own admission you've had very little experience with the CR. Isn't this an odd thing to say, in your position?
As I explained before, you're free to make a Colonial Citizen or some such as long as you at least notify/ask the faction about it politely.
It is elitism, it is just now that someone has decided to post the thread.
There should be some sort of independent Coalition. There should also be some sort of independent Nomad. This thread speaks about independent Colonial Remnants.
You cannot guarantee it either way.
Colonial citizen is different.
' Wrote:Most of it.I'm not such a high ranking member so that I can take decisions like this one.It was only my point of view
:lol:
So, if I RP, as an independent, I can get my Colonial Remnant ID without joining the faction, right?
Colonial Remnant ID - Atreides2 - 03-21-2010
You SRP it and i think .. YES .
Colonial Remnant ID - Bobthemanofsteel - 03-21-2010
What do you mean exactly, no faction will be better than another?
What I mean to say is, it's all in the eyes of the Beholder. While you may think the =CR= is the bestest most awesomest factions, others will not.
It is my opinion that Ageira is the bestest most... etc faction, yet others do not.
I guess what I was saying is rather redundant, and goes nowhere anyway, so we'll ignore that.
What reasons would these be?
The simple fact that they are both Canon Factions. The SCRA is purposely a rather small group, with intesne fighting skills to complete their task in Sirius.
The Nomads are from what I can understand, rather difficult to play in the first place, and have a massive standard to keep up to. We of course all know they are total pvpwhores. (/sarcasm)
The CR is much bigger in scale than both, and not Canon, leaving it with a much more... open RP potential. If I am a Colonial Citizen, why can I not be identified as one in the way other groups are? Without the need for an SRP.
I use 'I' as an example, btw
Colonial Remnant ID - Beagle23 - 03-21-2010
' Wrote:It is elitism, it is just now that someone has decided to post the thread.
There should be some sort of independent Coalition. There should also be some sort of independent Nomad. This thread speaks about independent Colonial Remnants.
Thing is, the main drive of this thread seems to be you can just decide to be an LN, or an RM, or a KNF, or a BAF, so you should be allowed to just become a CR because it may as well be like all the other factions.
Why?
Why not take the gracious, polite, easy step of asking the faction for permission or at the very least notifying them of your intent? Wouldn't the LN, RM, KNF, BAF all be better represented for it if their indies did the same?
I seem to have misunderstood the thread, I thought people were trying to become Colonial characters without joining the faction, like our Freelancer. That's very different to asking to join the Colonial Remnant without joining the Colonial Remnant. Of course you'd have to follow orders, it's a military. As far as I can tell the only reason people would want to join one and not the other is because they're interested in roleplaying a Colonial Military character but they don't want to take orders from... the Colonial Military.
Huh?!
Atreides2 made a very, very good suggestion that has been completely overlooked in the surging wish-wash of this thread - why not apply to join the CR and have a look at the place first? Why not at least try applying to make your indie Colonial character first? This discussion could rage on forever but why not just try these easy, easy steps first instead of what is basically arguing the point and nothing more?
Colonial Remnant ID - n00bl3t - 03-21-2010
' Wrote:Thing is, the main drive of this thread seems to be you can just decide to be an LN, or an RM, or a KNF, or a BAF, so you should be allowed to just become a CR because it may as well be like all the other factions.
Why?
Why not take the gracious, polite, easy step of asking the faction for permission or at the very least notifying them of your intent? Wouldn't the LN, RM, KNF, BAF all be better represented for it if their indies did the same?
I seem to have misunderstood the thread, I thought people were trying to become Colonial characters without joining the faction, like our Freelancer. That's very different to asking to join the Colonial Remnant without joining the Colonial Remnant. Of course you'd have to follow orders, it's a military. As far as I can tell the only reason people would want to join one and not the other is because they're interested in roleplaying a Colonial Military character but they don't want to take orders from... the Colonial Military.
Huh?!
Atreides2 made a very, very good suggestion that has been completely overlooked in the surging wish-wash of this thread - why not apply to join the CR and have a look at the place first? Why not at least try applying to make your indie Colonial character first? This discussion could rage on forever but why not just try these easy, easy steps first instead of what is basically arguing the point and nothing more?
There could be other reasons, like an OoRP disagreement with =CR= leadership.
Furthermore, if you make a thread about Colonial independents after applying and getting rejected, people discount your message.