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101st Faction Feedback - Lohingren - 08-05-2008
ah well i dunno if you would be friendly to a dictator trying to run you and everyone around you, way of playing fair enough, but i aint gonna really play nice with someone who aint to nice around others.
Now honestly chopper, many a time have i tried to work things out but usually its only a temporary bandage on the situation, and many a time has it been thrown in my face and many a time have i tried to just ignore it, but then thats against my way of doing things .... personally im not speaking on RoS's behalf no not at all, eppy has done nothing to me nor RoS for a very long time now, im speaking on the peoples behalf that are being harrased by a guy who just wants to dictate to people how to play.
Now what would i suggest on how to get them more members etc? for one stop acting like a buncha tyrants for one, it dont make yuo look cool, it dont make you respected all it does is make people dislike you and think your idiots trying to control people and spoil peoples fun, which it does for the best part.
2) instead of buying 4 dreadnoughts try to use the funds to actually recruit for once it helps alot. im still waiting on the rp posts you need to fly your dreadnoughts...... oh wait does being the guard automatically give you the right to fly it when others aint allowed? ah ok then
3) try to get more members online, honestly make a effort for once, all i see on the forums from 101st is, the 101st order you to do this, the 101st hereby declare this man is a traitor, the 101st now declare all to be lower than us blah blah blah or some shape manner or form dictating that your the military power in some shape manner or form
4) if your honestly gonna try and rp being the maltese's military number 1..... prove it instead of only bumping your gums acting big and doing nothing about it, honestly if your gonna try to say your the rulers or whatever give people something to fear...... right now the 101st is no more than 1 man preaching to everyone how they should play.
EDIT: and i have a number 5 sorry
5) stop bigging up your ego more and more, honestly...... having a ego aint a good thing infact its actually a bad thing and not something you should be proud of, you honestly think people are gonna join a faction who has a leader who loves himself? i really dont think so bud
101st Faction Feedback - n00bl3t - 08-05-2008
' Wrote:2) instead of buying 4 dreadnoughts try to use the funds to actually recruit for once it helps alot. im still waiting on the rp posts you need to fly your dreadnoughts...... oh wait does being the guard automatically give you the right to fly it when others aint allowed? ah ok then
Actually he has said this. That is, the 101st do not need RP for their capital ships. Someone with better post-digging skills can find it.
101st Faction Feedback - skoko - 08-05-2008
All I can say is that Raul.Sanchez is man that is keeping 101st alive... I agree with everything Nico said and then some... We are constantly trying to involve 101st in everything what RoS does, but we can't because we can't find them... I remember like week or two ago we were watching 7 CRs in T23 , I automatically PMed Raul(JuraII) and told him to pay attention, which he was doing and one SoB who brought 5 -6 ppl online in matter of minutes... to fight back (nothing happened that time)... point is that RoS logged on , SoB logged on and Raul logged on....
I also agree with chopper about 101st doesn't have nothing to offer to new players or more experienced ones, yes, well make "secret" spy wings, or "stealth" assassins wing or anything that can spice up things for you... Have regular practice sessions and regular gatherings just to show force, it will spice things even more.
IMO, 101st could offer a lot just that job takes time and money to keep it going... I never questioned your RP (Zapp is walking legend with his stories), also Eppy is really good RP-er... my only issue is lack of commitment from certain players... log on patrol, RP or just sit on the base for 30 minutes or hour each day and that will help too...
Devote time to training new members and recruiting more... I bet every 2nd-3rd new player on Disco wants to be an Outcast... We in RoS take them in when they apply then train them for very long period of time, teaching them how to play Disco basically and at the end we end up with really good players which will for sure be part of stable long-term RoS body...
Skoko
EDIT: We don't ask anyone to join RoS... most of them joins RoS cause they see us online most of the time and that is what people like because they know once they log on they will not be alone roaming around !
101st Faction Feedback - Jihadjoe - 08-05-2008
First I want to start with a little compliment. The RP for the 101st is very good. You have -some- excellent members who you should cherish and give positions of great authority because they do an excellent job (yes yes I know that zapp has a lot of authority, but Raul needs to be more important and this needs to be made clear.
I do think however that your faction has so many restrictions on the activity of its members that is becomes extremly un-attractive when compared to the other outcast factions. Here is the biggie. When do you ever raid anywhere? I know that this is an RP game and we all (well most at least) play it as such, however it is fun to go and lay down some hurt.
here is another little peice of criticism. This is a faction feedback thread, it is about giving (constructive) criticism to a faction to help them improve, so why is the title and subtitle of this thread "101st Faction Feedback, Criticism Will Not Be Tolerated". That seems to me like you're trying to present your faction as above reproach. I have a lot more patience with you eppy than most around me. Infact I think you're an alright guy, but I said it to you over skype and I'll say it here. Just chill out a bit. Life throws a few knocks and peices of criticism that you won't like in your direction. Learn from them, take it on board, but don't regard it as a personal attack every time.
I say the faction needs o present a far more friendly face out of game, and have a bit more bite in game. Get your activity up by organising a few events, go on a recruitment drive, making yourself a bit more n00b friendly. Stop the "we are the outcast overlords, fear us and our epic might" stuff because it puts people off. You have the foundation for a really good faction, but your lack of activity and incredibly restrictive regime doesn't help.
This isn't an attack, this is some friendly and honest advice, please take it as such, because I really want to see a strong ally and freind in the 101st, it would make outcast space a lot more fun.
PS. Please ease up on the indy capship thing. Restrictions and inflexibilty breed contempt, and a lot of people have been extremely upset by it. If you presented a more friendly face to the world, it would help you immensely. I know that you get frustrated by the OoRP caps flying about, and so do I, but the best way is to quietly take them aside in game, and show them the awesomeness of...
1. Flying fighters and bombers.
2. Roleplay.
101st Faction Feedback - n00bl3t - 08-05-2008
' Wrote:Mak[e] yourself a bit more n00b[l3t] friendly.
I support this.:P
101st Faction Feedback - Jinx - 08-05-2008
although i m not affected by it - i "think" that when the outcast registration was introduced, it was really "only" a registration with a bit of background information ( no 3 pages ) - but only a brief explanation about what the ship is actually about. - from what i gathered ... epyon was not at all on the powertrip there but only on the "i d like to KNOW you more"- trip.
however, it turned into a mandatory registration and powertrip after some time.... but i still think it was not the primary intention... - one could say - *things just went downhill - and its no ones real fault there - it was just that everyone got upset*
resulting form that were "claims" to govern others ( like "the destroyer that is sold on malta is restricted by the direct veto of the 101st, cause its produced in their guardsystem" was a point that was simply too much. - same goes with "when you don t comply we kill you - over and over and over till you give up" - thats bullying at work and should never have been said by any official faction .... but whats done is done - and now its all dead and buried. )
i think that a faction with few members can still RP as "THE" governing faction - if they can justify their claim rightfully. furthermore, i don t have a problem with a leader with "ego" ( although i suspect its more a joke there ) - a leader would rather have too much than too little ego - or he would be "replaced".
the faction works - its not dead - but it suffers from some issues. - i would AT ONCE abandon the idea of deploying your battleships ANYWHERE but your own guard system. - ( there was a silly saying that came to my mind when i heard it..... enforcing ooRP battleships with more ooRP actions, no matter how good the intention is like "f***ing for virginity" ) - if the 101st is the dominant faction, they have the greates say off of all outcasts. - the outcasts are dominating all their "alllies" cause they supply the cardamine.
a really ruthless and powerful outcast lord would not only "ask" the rogues and hackers to deal with the NY ooRP capital ships - but he would even order them, blackmail them, force them to. why would he want to make his own hands dirty when there are dependent ones ( and rather expandable ones ) that can do the job.
101st Faction Feedback - mwerte - 08-05-2008
-deleated-
I was wrong, sorry
101st Faction Feedback - Exile - 08-05-2008
I have one point of critisism.
One of your boys shot Kain and Billy! THE kain and billy! Shame on you! :nono::rtfm:
101st Faction Feedback - Unseelie - 08-05-2008
' Wrote:First I want to start with a little compliment. The RP for the 101st is very good. You have -some- excellent members who you should cherish and give positions of great authority because they do an excellent job (yes yes I know that zapp has a lot of authority, but Raul needs to be more important and this needs to be made clear.
I do think however that your faction has so many restrictions on the activity of its members that is becomes extremly un-attractive when compared to the other outcast factions. Here is the biggie. When do you ever raid anywhere? I know that this is an RP game and we all (well most at least) play it as such, however it is fun to go and lay down some hurt.
here is another little peice of criticism. This is a faction feedback thread, it is about giving (constructive) criticism to a faction to help them improve, so why is the title and subtitle of this thread "101st Faction Feedback, Criticism Will Not Be Tolerated". That seems to me like you're trying to present your faction as above reproach. I have a lot more patience with you eppy than most around me. Infact I think you're an alright guy, but I said it to you over skype and I'll say it here. Just chill out a bit. Life throws a few knocks and peices of criticism that you won't like in your direction. Learn from them, take it on board, but don't regard it as a personal attack every time.
I say the faction needs o present a far more friendly face out of game, and have a bit more bite in game. Get your activity up by organising a few events, go on a recruitment drive, making yourself a bit more n00b friendly. Stop the "we are the outcast overlords, fear us and our epic might" stuff because it puts people off. You have the foundation for a really good faction, but your lack of activity and incredibly restrictive regime doesn't help.
This isn't an attack, this is some friendly and honest advice, please take it as such, because I really want to see a strong ally and freind in the 101st, it would make outcast space a lot more fun.
PS. Please ease up on the indy capship thing. Restrictions and inflexibilty breed contempt, and a lot of people have been extremely upset by it. If you presented a more friendly face to the world, it would help you immensely. I know that you get frustrated by the OoRP caps flying about, and so do I, but the best way is to quietly take them aside in game, and show them the awesomeness of...
1. Flying fighters and bombers.
2. Roleplay.
Jihad Joe Wins This Thread. Seriously, Eppy, you want to be elite, act elite. You want to be a leader, act like a leader.
Oh, and, whatever happened to the 101st Ghosts of Razgriz sigs? Those things were one of the stamps of the great elite....I rather miss them.
101st Faction Feedback - Thexare - 08-05-2008
' Wrote:( there was a silly saying that came to my mind when i heard it..... enforcing ooRP battleships with more ooRP actions, no matter how good the intention is like "f***ing for virginity" )How else do you propose we create more virgins, then?
Seriously though, I'm not particularly fond of your capital ship registration system either, especially given the way you enforce it and that you don't hold your own faction to the same requirements. I play along, and I advise others in-game to register, simply because that's easier than the alternative, but it really does seem rather OORP.
I also don't see you very much. RoS and SOB are around much more often.
Basically, echoing Joe's entire post.