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Faction Right 2 and 5 - Agmen of Eladesor - 12-10-2010
' Wrote:I understand you did not intend it to harm RP of others Agmen. But it is. We all just want to stay in the one place where we can enforce something in the capital ships... Can't you just say "fine, Keep O7/3, but dont abuse it" or something. A request is valid, But an order to an indie, like others have stated- Wont go far.
The Guild Core is a PMC. That means Private Military Company. Our RP to our ship captains isn't, "Hey, would you pretty please maybe if you feel like it go do this." and never has been - and I think you're failing to take into account that my comments in the comm channel FROM MY CHARACTER (as opposed to, and to differentiate from the comments I personally made, since I thought someone didn't understand FR2 and wasn't deliberately being obstructive) have been made in our military manner.
In other words - they're orders. Period. Go do this or I will have you stood up against the wall and shot. Repeatedly. And as Mimic has said, I've issued orders in the past, and he has complied. Which means that we can and have done so - and will do so again if need be. Begrudgingly, but he understands the way that FR 2 works. And since then, I've had no issues with him, and as I said, I hope he's had no issues with me.
I could just as easily issue orders telling the cap ships that they are to go patrol and map out Omega-58 or Omega-52. Those orders would be just as valid, and just as binding upon you. (God knows every time we've tried to go into 52 so far the damned NPC's have cleaned our clocks...)
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Llama - 12-10-2010
As for that O3, Its claimed and RP'd as bret space, but i've double checked, its actually not. No matter how much they RP, deep down, its not.
As for the BHG core Rp, Yes it is a branch off the Original BHG, So dont try to change something you have BRANCHED off, You branch off - you revert back for original context. Not revert back to change the original faction, NPC or not.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Diabolicus - 12-10-2010
' Wrote:As for that O3, Its claimed and RP'd as bret space, but i've double checked, its actually not. No matter how much they RP, deep down, its not.
As for the BHG core Rp, Yes it is a branch off the Original BHG, So dont try to change something you have BRANCHED off, You branch off - you revert back for original context. Not revert back to change the original faction, NPC or not.
It's Vanilla RP that O-3 is Bretonian. They have Vanilla GB patrols there, and they enforce their laws there.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Llama - 12-10-2010
' Wrote:Our RP
And as Mimic has said, I've issued orders in the past, and he has complied.
Exactly OUR RP, Thats not actually the BHG Rp is it? nope.
As Mimic has said? He has complied? Good for him! What a legend. Does that mean BHG have to? Nope.
Edit: Vanilla isnt discovery lad.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Diabolicus - 12-10-2010
' Wrote:Exactly OUR RP, Thats not actually the BHG Rp is it? nope.
As Mimic has said? He has complied? Good for him! What a legend. Does that mean BHG have to? Nope.
The Capships are for Core purpose, anyway. As I've said earlier, if there's going to be a BHG guard ID, AND a BHG Core ID, the core will keep the caps in the same manner the HF controls spyglasses.
EDIT: Discovery is Vanilla + added stuff, hence everything Vanilla applies.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Llama - 12-10-2010
If the seperate ID's Occur, the Admins will probably give it an equal right to the cap ships, E.g what if you dont wanna follow orders from Agmen? But you already have a cap when they make the 2 ID's? Sell them? Admins should not expect players to sell the ships that they have RP'd with and flown.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Diabolicus - 12-10-2010
' Wrote:If the seperate ID's Occur, the Admins will probably give it an equal right to the cap ships, E.g what if you dont wanna follow orders from Agmen? But you already have a cap when they make the 2 ID's? Sell them? Admins should not expect players to sell the ships that they have RP'd with and flown.
If it occurs, which it won't, if people not in the core get to keep their caps when the switch is done, then the new BHG will be jealous, and we won't be any more advanced.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Diabolicus - 12-10-2010
Also, if you're unhappy with how the Core runs, you could always apply to join them, gain their trust, become a Guildmaster, and then attempt to change the system from inside. It's your best bet.
EDIT: Expected a merge.
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Llama - 12-10-2010
Perhaps Agmen would gain control and trust of the indies if he made request from us first.
Agmen, Try asking us to avoid Omega-7/3. Don't demand our ships... Request then gain trust... not just "BLA! DO THIS!" (not that you said it that way.... But some can see it like that)
Faction Right 2 and 5 - Diabolicus - 12-10-2010
It's a military. You adapt to high command, not vice versa.