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Faction right to lie on Wiki - Linkus - 05-11-2010
The wiki is meant to provide all the info on the mod possible.
That's been established so many times.
Anyone using any external FL program can find the base.
As such, the wiki should have it.
Otherwise what's the point of the wiki?
It's not just this small thing btw, it's a bad precedent. Precedent is epicly important in Disco remember >.>
Faction right to lie on Wiki - chovynz - 05-11-2010
I guess lolcabbage will always be lolcabbage.
I've deleted three replies already from me, because that wouldn't be using the 0.0 rule.
I am, for lack of better words, flabbergasted.
Edit#5. No I won't say it!
Faction right to lie on Wiki - Sprolf - 05-11-2010
Wikipedia doesn't tell us where Atlantis is.
Or where El Dorado is. Or where Osama Bin Laden is.
Or where Rosie O'Donnell's belly button has got to.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I see no reason the location of Leniex should be made known.
Faction right to lie on Wiki - EisenSeele - 05-11-2010
' Wrote:Wikipedia doesn't tell us where Atlantis is.
Or where El Dorado is. Or where Osama Bin Laden is.
Or where Rosie O'Donnell's belly button has got to.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I see no reason the location of Leniex should be made known.
Heh, they accuse me of hyperbole.
For all three instances, we just don't know. For one of the three, no one has ever returned from the expeditionary treks to find out (i'm not talking about Atlantis, and the CIA is working on Bin Laden)
Faction right to lie on Wiki - chovynz - 05-11-2010
This gents, is the very epitomy of missing the point, and sticking to the letter of the law, rather than the spirit of friendship. Those responsible for the relevant information have asked it to not go on there, and we should respect that. It's as simple as that. You use your perceived "logic" as a weapon against others, for selfish gain, at the cost of true community.
I'm sad that I can't get through your pre-conceived and ill-thought out plans for full-disclosure, and ideological wiki utopianship. Wake up into the real world.
I don't know what else to say. If you don't listen then there IS nothing for me to say. Just know that you'll be doing your wiki-ing alone. Not that I expect that will change anything. You've obviously made up your minds.
Faction right to lie on Wiki - tazuras - 05-11-2010
' Wrote:Wikipedia doesn't tell us where Atlantis is.Wikipedia is in RP, so to speak, as it is about the real world and written by people that exist in that world and are limited by their positions in it. This is not the case with the discovery wiki. It is written by people who dont exist in the universe it describes for people who dont exist in that universe. The wiki is not in RP and never has been. There is in RP content in it, which we encourage, but it would be impossible for it to be in RP as there are a million different RP perspectives it would have to be from if it was to be allowed to convey the information it needs to to be effective.
Or where El Dorado is. Or where Osama Bin Laden is.
Or where Rosie O'Donnell's belly button has got to.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I see no reason the location of Leniex should be made known.
Dont get me wrong, I have yet to decide exactly where I am on this issue, and in the past it has been on the side of excluding select information to promote RP and realism.
' Wrote:I don't know what else to say. If you don't listen then there IS nothing for me to say. Just know that you'll be doing your wiki-ing alone. Not that I expect that will change anything. You've obviously made up your minds.Trust me, we are listening, but a lot of what we are hearing doesnt make sense. Personally I have not read through this whole thread and unless someone gives me good reason I dont intend to. Based on a good deal of the posts here this does not seem like the most productive place to discuss this issue.
Faction right to lie on Wiki - mwerte - 05-11-2010
' Wrote:unless someone gives me good reason I dont intend to.because it's a good timesink while at work if your boss doesn't know.
Faction right to lie on Wiki - lousal - 05-11-2010
I doubt that there is a deeper sense in publishing such kind of information. If we would extend the RP approach on the Discovery Wiki it should actually be written by historians, so I would rather believe that these people would rather try to decribe the little they know, even delving into speculations, than to know simply everything.
FL Tools, such as Data Storm or Companion, very useful as they might be are generally spoling the RP atmosphere and distorting a kind of purer game play. It is really enough that players do not have to explore the systems again but using their personal memory when switching characters.
And now I would like to get one question answered:
What is actually more important - a thrilling universe because everybody has to explore it providing many surprises to everybody over a longer time, or the quetionable intention to record simply everything and thus spoiling fun?
I do not like such OORP shortcuts at all. It is troublesome enough regarding role play that game mechanics are revealing too much if one is really eager to find things out without having them experienced on his characters, but as much as the Wiki Team bears a heavy responsibility, which is to display Sirius as it could happen in an imaginary Encyclopedia Siriana, they also bear the same amount of responsibility not to spoil things that are meant to create fun.
Why is there a Scientist ID at all, if they are not needed?
Faction right to lie on Wiki - Alex. - 05-11-2010
' Wrote:What is actually more important - a thrilling universe because everybody has to explore it providing many surprises to everybody over a longer time, or the quetionable intention to record simply everything and thus spoiling fun?The first one. As for the second option, your 'spoiling the fun' bit is based on your opinion. Please note that not all players think it spoils the fun.
EDIT: Actually, after re-reading your post, it seems to be related to the entire wiki. /me points at the 'New Topic' button.
Faction right to lie on Wiki - lousal - 05-11-2010
Quote:EDIT: Actually, after re-reading your post, it seems to be related to the entire wiki. /me points at the 'New Topic' button.A general rule concerning the rights of a faction/group to decide what is going to be published within their domain is subject to the entire wiki. /me points to coherency.