Zoner RP Solutions

[Canadianguy]

Even if that gets through all the politics, it still wouldn't be enough in my opinion. House space would still get flooded by Zoner traders (just in smaller ships) since even when you nerf their profits, they still will be earning more than most other factions.

Sorry to disagree with you but let me say you something about the mentality of a hardcore porwertrader. Its simple, for them its pretty much impossible to imagine powertrading w/o a 5000 cargo ship. If you remove the hability of the Zoner Guard to land at some places, they will continue their stuff, get sanctioned and they will prolly change to an other ID allowing a 5k transport. And let say it, the main advantage for gameplay it has is that there will be no more: U cant pirat meh I is Zoner. For RP, the main good thing it will do is removing the huge amount of zoners in house space.

Also, I am totally for the regulation of ALL Battleships and maybe even some cruisers like the Rogue Dessie.

Also, if unlwafuls bounty up Zoners ship that are in places they should not be, it will do pretty much nothing. Powertraders do not learn by getting blown. They will just whine cuz they are zoners and zoners are neutral.

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[Nummer02]

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[farmerman]

A large part of the problem with Zoner RP is refering to Zoners as Zoners. The CoZ and SHIZL make it seem like there is a head of the Zoners you can appeal to similar to a House Navy or Corp but there isnt. Zoners are more like Freelancers in the sense that we by and large answer to ourselves or our faction only. So when people say 'Zoners do this!' or 'Zoners do that!' its kind of annoying as not all of us do that or this yet we are tared with the same brush.

I still think another large part of the problem is there isn't a single idea about the capabilities of the Zoners overall. This leads to people arguing from vastly different perspectives. Some people say they're strong enough to beat a House without a problem while others say they're a small group of squatter types. The same applies to their level of self-sufficiently.

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[Canadianguy]

I still think another large part of the problem is there isn't a single idea about the capabilities of the Zoners overall. This leads to people arguing from vastly different perspectives. Some people say they're strong enough to beat a House without a problem while others say they're a small group of squatter types. The same applies to their level of self-sufficiently.

They do not have a better economy than the houses, thats for sure. But still, they still are pretty rich. They sell food and stuf in places where its rare, therefore really pricy and really the demand is also really high.

They supply like who, let say, about all edge worlds pirate factions, the order, the BHG, etc.

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[reisiger_duke]

I still think another large part of the problem is there isn't a single idea about the capabilities of the Zoners overall. This leads to people arguing from vastly different perspectives. Some people say they're strong enough to beat a House without a problem while others say they're a small group of squatter types. The same applies to their level of self-sufficiently.

Agreed.
Since Vanilla FL, the Zoners have changed enough to need a new definition by the developpers of the discovery mod for everyone to use as a starting point.

So we'd have to ask the devs pretty nicely if they could agree on an update to the Zoner Infocard :crazy:

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