Liners need speed, not cargo space

[alance]

You should have read the entire thread Dab, point missed entirely.

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"To gain a hundred victories in a hundred battles is not the highest excellence;
to subjugate the enemy's army without doing battle is the highest of excellence."

[McNeo]

If you have a serious loadout on your liner, you can easily give a gunboat a run for his money. No, the turret slots aren't worthless either, there are some damn good turrets out there.

Of course there are pirates out there that can kill you, but I don't want to fly my gunboat every time I want to make a buck or two on a run. You do make some good points with your analogies, but I feel i need to poke some holes in them.

Now to some looks as to what things influenced the liner's creation. The American President's convoy. Usually consists of 4 guys on motorcycles, and then 2 cars, with the Limo. Now that Limo, that is the Luxury Liner in this case. It has some very nice luxury in it.
But its also bullet-proof, and can keep the president alive and safe from the explosion of a rocket launcher. Now this car is NOT fast. Not at all. Its heavy, its slow, but it can take alot of punishment.
Thats what the luxury liner should be like. Very nice in the inside, but strong enough to survive an attack through its amount of armor. It should also be very slow.

Sure, I agree completely with that.

Since when has this limo had the same capacity as an 18 wheeler, though, or even one of those smaller lorries you see on British roads?

Prisoners are also transported in Armoured vans, which have no where near the capacity of those 18 wheelers.

In my view, an 18 wheeler can be constituted as an Advanced train. The biggest of the big on the roads. The mother of ground-bound transport vehicles. Surely, the limo of the president doesn't have 86% the space of the 18 wheeler (5000 cargo space on the Adv Train, 4300 on the Bretonian Liner i think)

I don't doubt your analogies, but I couldn't help but see the massive hole in your argument.:mellow:.

Also, it isn't about how cheap or expensive cargo capacity is for however much you pay. Its about the certainty of getting to your destination with the cargo alive and well. 200k armour with a mk VIII capital ship armour upgrade is 600k armour. How can a fighter, or even two, stop that before it gets to its destination? I know one person who is planning to do this already...

On the 140 or 150k armour Advanced Train, that is 450k armour. However, you have no hope of even firing back at your enemy because you have no offensive capability at all (those turrets are worthless, even with the best fighter turrets on the market). You are as much of a target as the liner flying one too.

Traders shouldn't fly them, but they do. Traders should only use trading ships. A liner is a better smuggling ship by far than the Firefly, which is a purpose built smuggling vessel. That shouldn't be the case at all.

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And yeah, that was kind of backtracking on the arguement... but hey.

[Drake]

People complained less back when liners had smallish cargo holds but limited gunboat equipment.

I want liners back the way they were. :(

[globalplayer-svk]

dab you have right the container has a bigger firepower but only little thing.no cd.so every enemy npc around stop you.and is not hard stop container(thats why i cange it for firefly,because i was stopped every 3 minutes.)
about the speed i agree,liners not need speed but decrease cargo.you say its like presidents limo.yes limos carrying vip.but where you can see limo full of diamands or full of niobium or other things?i thing nowhere.and you say limo has escort,but where in sirius you see liners with escort?(i dont mean rp players but traders.)only what i see is liner full of cargo going from one point to another and back.liners are not trade ships,but liners.and you see its not hard to pirate liner in fighter,lux liner with armor upgrade 8 (i thing all have it) has 550 000 armor +shield. when you have on fighter disrtuptor,you can not have shieldbuster(mini razor or inferno) so how long you think you need to destroy 100 000 shield(with rechahrging) and 550 000 armor? when the traders still move?and he can fire back and still moving.i think you need some time for doing this.and you say this:
urthermore, how can you argue and complain about a ship you've never flown, never want to fly, never would do any RP connected to it, or even testing it beyond looking at numbers, which don't show everything. I've had my RP Liner for about a year now.
noone from us is saying something again rp liner players.but about players that carrying clasic cargo in them.without any rp or something and when i ask them private why liner and not trade ship.answer is always because is it stronger and has better shield.thats all what they say.i dont think liners are bad ships,but as a trader why the hell i will have liner and not trade ship?liner should carying passengers,vip,or prisoners.but not other cargo as others trade ships...
that is my opinion

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