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Offline Zayne Carrick
09-27-2013, 05:02 PM,
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Regular cruiser turrets are like gunboat cerbs, but slightly better.
I speak about heavy cruiser turrets.
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Offline Pepe
09-28-2013, 11:39 PM,
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(09-27-2013, 04:37 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: The game needs more money sinks instead of fewer. So lowering ship prices will not work.
Also: who cares about money anyway? Everybody who has been here for a bit has enough billions to pretty much make every ship he wants whenever he wants it.

About the Gunboat:

I would say: re-run the tests once the shield bubble is up again. The big strength of the GBs was that they could practically insta-deshield snubs and chip hull off if the snubs were too cheeky and came too close.

This ability has not been nerfed, the range just has been shortened, it seems. Solarizer turrets should still work great and with a shield bubble and fixed snub hitboxes, it should actually be a pretty capable weapon again. I suspect heavily that the uselessness at the moment comes from the difficulty that every ship has when it comes to dropping shields. That will be gone, soon.

I agree about money sinks. But no one will spend money on GBs, bubbles solved or not. They make symbolic damage to hull, for pretty high equipping price comparing to other ship classes.

Problem is CAU6 maybe, as largest investment in any new GB. You suck to any decent enemy CAU6 GB if you don't have it same or better, so better don't buy that GB at all. No sales - no traders, as you pointed already.

Having cheap AU8 gunship with fast guns was fun to me. It dies of one snac if just a little damaged, so I never walked home. But it made me tons of fun before that snac, so it made me buy more gunships and my enemy bought more bombers.

Having house guns screwed is bad for RP too, as we all MUST use non-house guns now to stay alive: solaris, cerbs, pulses, razors... And no zappers. Nice idea 'bout zappers, but no cigars.

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Offline Evo
09-29-2013, 07:11 AM,
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(09-26-2013, 08:29 AM)acqchangqing Wrote: now in 4.87, Gunboats had crippled(Turrets speed slowed down), and Lv4 transports' turrets speed up.
Charon:2080*2(600) Cerberus: 2300*2(900)
transports as powerful as GBs but have cago space.
Gunboats can't win transports, bombers,cap ships, and can only win small fighters, small transports maybe.
and this role of militray attack unit is rarely stand out to raids,RP actions now(in my observe)

You're forgetting one key thing. MOST transports are fatter than GB's. Cerberus' are still by far better than Charons even only gun-wise, not paying any mind to the ship they're used on.

Also, @ Murcielago, the nammu is basically a cruiser sized GB. So it got cruiser turrets. It was needed imo, nammu was TERRIBLE.

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Offline Murcielago
09-29-2013, 08:22 AM,
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(09-29-2013, 07:11 AM)Evo Wrote: You're forgetting one key thing. MOST transports are fatter than GB's. Cerberus' are still by far better than Charons even only gun-wise, not paying any mind to the ship they're used on.

Also, @ Murcielago, the nammu is basically a cruiser sized GB. So it got cruiser turrets. It was needed imo, nammu was TERRIBLE.

So Nammu is now only GB that have good weapons....
All others suck (GB weapons).
Still noone explain what to do with GB in this 48.70 version.

Please some admin or developer explain to me what to do whit GB now???
What is the purpose of this ship class???


I don't wish here the answer from some trader who hate the pirats or some snob lover who was afraid of GBs in 48.60 mod.

Why why why why why did you mess whit good workiing ship class??
Not only that the weapons are bad now all other ships are faster too now.
Soo give back old weapons and pimp the engine 20%

Make the GB useable again.
please please please please please please please please please please please
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