Battletransports

[dodike]

You seem to be contradicting yourself somewhat...

Short-handed in terms of destroying a transport or forcing it to comply with demands. Suboptimal for solo piracy.

[Mímir]

Short-handed in terms of destroying a transport or forcing it to comply with demands. Suboptimal for solo piracy.

We can agree a fighter is suboptimal against a transport, yes. A bomber is better. No doubt. Never said anything to imply otherwise.

I'm just pointing out that if you get caught in your trannie (even with the battle- prefix) far from a safe haven, even a lone fighter can make you into minced meat.

Your safest bet as a trader is not "more guns" but RP (and/or a junker ID or a Zoner ID - I had a Whale with 1 gun (or is it none?) and I got stopped but never had to cough up any money for several months) - none of the transports were made for proper fighting, and I think that is a good thing.

Edit: Proper SOLO fighting, that is. I haven't met battletrannies in convoys, but I could imagine that it would be a force to be reckoned with.

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[dodike]

I'm just pointing out that if you get caught in your trannie (even with the battle- prefix) far from a safe haven, even a lone fighter can make you into minced meat.

I can agree on that.

[ryoken]

1 Fighter vs P-trans? nope. I have covered 60K in my Shire against 1 lone Sabre. Everytime he came in range i knocked out his shields,and he backed off to regen. He tried to get in close a few times for sustained fire/mines, but lost alot of hull. I just kept thrusters on full towards base, and non stop firing. Lost 2/3 bots is all.
You keep in a straight line, full thrust and the fighter cannot do enough sustained damage to keep shields down, and hurt hull. Especially a sabre with its powercore.
You want a fighter that hurts trans? Try corsair Titan with 2 class 10 Shield busters/ 2 class 10 missiles/2 class 9 missiles, and a Nuke dropper. Shield busters rape the shield and can go non stop with titan, then 4 different missiles just knock off all trans gear piece by piece including Thruster. 4 different missiles is also 280 rounds of ammo, so 1 on 1 no ammo shortage. Most trans give up after a few turrets fall off.

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[Tachyon]

1 Fighter vs P-trans? nope. I have covered 60K in my Shire against 1 lone Sabre. Everytime he came in range i knocked out his shields,and he backed off to regen.

Problem here is, a skilled sabre will be able to avoid getting it's shield knocked off; considering you meet a skilled solo-sabre-pirate you would probalby just be able to make 1/2 to 2/3's of the way.

The only problem a sabre will ever have against a BTrans, is it's lack of firepwer to actually take it down.

The problems of bomber is, that they are less maneuverable and therefore easier to hit; with the nerfed SNAC range a bomber would need to close on a distance inside the Type 3's firing range, therefore taking a lot of hits.

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[Wraga]

You made a transport run in a fighter?

Wow.

A simple Bowex vhf killed my cap4 Slave Liner once...so yes, they could rape a transport.

Finally I made a decision and bought an Uruz. Tested it at Connecticut and it works well. I took down a cruiser shield with it and damaged its hull while he shoot on me with cruiser weapons. Was fine against bomber too, since its shape makes it a hard target from behind. However it could survive, its always depends on your and your enemies skillls.

Summary: Uruz is the same like Shire as I realised, so a smart choice if somebody want to fight sometimes not just pay and run.

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[Mímir]

True at the end of the day it all depends on your skills and the skills of the person you are pitted against, that is what is so great about Disco.

And also I really really like the looks of the Uruz model. Been thinking of figuring out a way to make one into a carditransport:-)

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[ryoken]

Problem here is, a skilled sabre will be able to avoid getting it's shield knocked off; considering you meet a skilled solo-sabre-pirate you would probalby just be able to make 1/2 to 2/3's of the way.

The only problem a sabre will ever have against a BTrans, is it's lack of firepwer to actually take it down.

The problems of bomber is, that they are less maneuverable and therefore easier to hit; with the nerfed SNAC range a bomber would need to close on a distance inside the Type 3's firing range, therefore taking a lot of hits.

Yup my very first post in this topic. I said skill of both pilots can be win or loss to both. Now in a snub i am average. 50/50 win/loss. But in large ships i am good(not uber/awesome) and i usually hit what i fire at more often then miss. A sabre will lose it's shields in 2 hits from a B-trans. 12 turrets is 12K damage/6K shields.
As for a slave liner getting raped by a lone VHF? Nothing personel, but you cannot fly a big ship well. I have fended off 2 bombers in a Slave liner. Not kill them mind you, but enough damage they ran away instead of death.
Winning a fight does not always mean killing the other ship. Living to finght another day is a win in a transport. B-Trans exxel at living long enough to get safely to port.

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[AeternusDoleo]

Edit: Proper SOLO fighting, that is. I haven't met battletrannies in convoys, but I could imagine that it would be a force to be reckoned with.

Oh yea, this Convoy and IMG can attest to. A proper armed transport convoy with some armor on each transport can blast it's way through a gunboat ambush or the odd bomber pair without too much trouble. Most (solo) pirates tend to run when they see 3 combat-able transports work together... Wisely so too.

There's one more battletransie on the wishlist, by yours truly, for IMG (which lacks a proper big transport of it's own right now). For all intents and purposes it'll be similar to the Akegata class, with gunmounts in a triangular setup along the main spine.

[Edit]@above: Those bombers need to learn to subtarget your thruster. That gone, the liner's dead.

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