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Poll: Would you find Fuel Requirements a healthy Dynamic element for Discovery Economy?
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Fuel
Offline DarthCloakedGuy
08-04-2011, 09:36 PM,
#61
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Man, if this happens, I am leaving and never coming back. Maintaining my pirate bomber is expensive enough already with just restocking TCDs, nuke mines, and regens.

PLEASE I BEG YOU DON'T MAKE ME POWERTRADE MORE THAN I ALREADY DO.

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HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
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CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.
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Offline Lonely_Ghost
08-04-2011, 09:49 PM,
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' Wrote:Well, it would give snubcraft an incentive to buddy up with caps and transports - to act as supply vehicles for the snubs.

Pirates can get their fuel by making other traders drop it, or killing NPCs, or buying it from friendly bases or passing Junkers.

Trade, buy, steal, maybe even mine it.

Well, it make sence for snubs... Small crafts uses Hfuel, but large, like cruisers and BS not. Like, cap ship drive using other technology, because standart system not fuel efficent. Small crafts can dock at every base and buy some fuel, altought caps uses other fuel for their engines, which can be found on cap ship maintenance bases... Cap ship fuel might be not so cheap like hfuel for fighter, but for much longer time.
For eample: full fighter/bomber fuel resource- 48 hours of cruise, (50-100k for full suply) Cruisers- 5 to 7 days of autonomiouse flyght, exact time in space (1-2 kk) BS- about 2 weeks. (3-4kk)
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Offline Friday
08-04-2011, 11:49 PM,
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' Wrote:Man, if this happens, I am leaving and never coming back. Maintaining my pirate bomber is expensive enough already with just restocking TCDs, nuke mines, and regens.

PLEASE I BEG YOU DON'T MAKE ME POWERTRADE MORE THAN I ALREADY DO.

You only read what you want to read.
Who said your pirate had to powertrade?

You could get all the fuel you need from the ships you pirate.

If you have a bad run, or end up getting killed, how much is, say 50 units of H-Fuel going to cost you to buy from a station - 75K at most?

You going to up and leave Disco over a few units of fuel? One would have thought bomber nerfs and cruise power drain would have sent you packing long before!

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Offline Friday
08-04-2011, 11:51 PM,
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' Wrote:Well, it make sence for snubs... Small crafts uses Hfuel, but large, like cruisers and BS not. Like, cap ship drive using other technology, because standart system not fuel efficent. Small crafts can dock at every base and buy some fuel, altought caps uses other fuel for their engines, which can be found on cap ship maintenance bases... Cap ship fuel might be not so cheap like hfuel for fighter, but for much longer time.
For eample: full fighter/bomber fuel resource- 48 hours of cruise, (50-100k for full suply) Cruisers- 5 to 7 days of autonomiouse flyght, exact time in space (1-2 kk) BS- about 2 weeks. (3-4kk)

Large ships use heavy fuels like MOX or Plutonium - and these commodities already perish on their own, so they have a built in timer that should last long enough.

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Offline DarthCloakedGuy
08-05-2011, 12:00 AM,
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' Wrote:You only read what you want to read.
Who said your pirate had to powertrade?

You could get all the fuel you need from the ships you pirate.

If you have a bad run, or end up getting killed, how much is, say 50 units of H-Fuel going to cost you to buy from a station - 75K at most?

You going to up and leave Disco over a few units of fuel? One would have thought bomber nerfs and cruise power drain would have sent you packing long before!
Nono, you're not understanding me. See, it's not just the money. It's also being required, mechanically, to leave after X time. Even if it's in the middle of what is otherwise a fun and exciting RP, which are hard enough to find nowadays. Giving people an added incentive to arrive, pass by, and leave silently is just plain uncool-- or perhaps, what I should say is a DISincentive to stay, chat, and RP a bit before carrying on.

[Image: SLRU.png]
[Image: hispaniansubcopy.png]
[Image: elconsejeroub2copy.png]
HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
A Plea to the Outcasts (PG)
CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.
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Offline AeternusDoleo
08-05-2011, 08:59 AM,
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I can see fuel requirements making the GMG (and Samura) important factions, and bring some much needed attention towards Kusari. However, I'm not sure how it would be implementable, and at earliest this would be something to be considered for 4.87 - devs are not taking on new projects while 4.86 is in the works.

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Offline DarthCloakedGuy
08-05-2011, 07:34 PM,
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that this is a terrible idea because it penalizes players for sitting and RPing, rather than just hurrying on their way to make more credits so they'll have enough fuel for PvP.

[Image: SLRU.png]
[Image: hispaniansubcopy.png]
[Image: elconsejeroub2copy.png]
HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
A Plea to the Outcasts (PG)
CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.
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Offline JSDisc
08-06-2011, 06:43 PM,
#68
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I don't want to have it with except with these stats.
1 fuel should be something very hard to purchase
2 LF max: 100 units {1H of cruise speed}
Battleship max:10000 units {5H of cruise speed}
3 gives a speed boost when its there instead of a problem when its not.
4 doesn't occupy cargo space.
making only the very very rich have them.
OR
1 something very very easy to purchase, 5 credits per unit (LF max:100{1H of cruise speed}
Battleship max:10000 {5H of cruise speed}
2 when it runs out, cruise at 30%
3 does not occupy cargo
4 can be auto replenished if have a
"replicator"30 000 credits mk1 50 000 mk2 etc...
(replenishes at the rate of 1unit per 2s with mk1; mk2 has 2 units per 2s etc)
or

"busssard collectors (Yes I am a trek fan)" 30 000 mk1 50 000 mk2 etc...
(replenishes at 2 units per 2s mk1 but only if flying trough nebula (bonus for flying in radioactive neb)
neither requires cargo space

In both cases
1 can be stolen
2 can be transferred
3 if exceeds max unit hold, occupies cargo space
4 only drains cruise engines

It should be roleplay enhancer instead of destroyer, It should be something that either anyone can have or no one under a certain point. if it isn't something like this, I want no part of it

LIBERTY IS THE STRONGEST OF THEM ALL!!! oh wait, that's 4.84
Now you'll see. I'll predict the future. in 4.86 Gallia will launch a full scale attack on the houses! guess how I know.
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