True, these NPCs are quite hassling, ain't they? But what about PCs then? I would like to see a reasonable RP background from both bounty hunters and mercs, at least something truly identifying their interests, before abusing New York like a target practice park to be honest.
EDIT: I don't want to be forced to inflict a mercenary ban in Liberty, just like the one in Rheinland. At first I was thinking that one should not have implemented such a ban but after facing mercenaries using New York for docking and taking bounties against our officers, I changed my mind. Things get out of Roleplay if we do not clearly state our ambitions.
the ICO is based in liberty and any conflict in liberty jeperdizes ther intrests as a whole. to top it off all of ICO are liberty patriots and ther sole intent is defending liberty with or without local laws consent. bounty hunting is one of the meny forms of security that thay provide. ther primary perpse is as an indapendent police force. that has financhal support from the guild in exchage for some hainous pirpse that wil be fufiled in the near futher.
If I die bury me with a rocket luancher, and a shotgun. I am going to have some house cleaning to do.
Bounty Hunting must be a very profitable business then to warrant all of ICO to start flying caps....
I thought the main difference between BH and Mercs was that BH could not take bounties from bad guys.
Why? cause all Bad guys hate Bounty Hunters.
Mercs can work their Magic on both sides of the law.
Disadvantage? Mercs can not fly Bigger Caps.
I am primarily a Merc, so I am being very objective and unbiased in my opinion. I have no BH or LH characters. Put yourself in LH's shoes then make that same statement. If you are flying caps for the sake of winning every fight, you might find a huge target on your back pretty soon....and remember Mercs do take bounties from Bad Guys. You might then realise what a squadron of Bombers can do to a cap ship.
P.S: Probably, dont count on Liberty to help you in that matter either.
To tell you the truth...a mercenary/BH ban in New York might not be such a bad idea Kress. I mean...NY is the heart of Liberty. Don't you think that they have enough ships there 'trolling the area?
Quote: ICO is based in liberty and any conflict in liberty jeperdizes ther intrests as a whole. to top it off all of ICO are liberty patriots and ther sole intent is defending liberty with or without local laws consent
And No offense to you, blackdragon, but this is really fishy.
Now I am new here but there is something wrong about this. Why is Capship fight in New York. You in RP wouldn't fight a battle requiring a capship in NY unless it was a Liberty last stand. I mean most fighting would take place in the independent systems and the Border Worlds, and definitely not next to Planet Manhattan or West Point. Of course their exceptions but those are anti-smuggling and usually involve huge freighters. Though fighting in Fields and open space between fighters seem realistic.
fist that was OORP privet chat. that lpi agent was threatnig sead ICO member with a multude of things from causing subversion to blackmail. that was a respons to a threat end of story. or are you simply going to choose to belive what is convenite to you?.
pipsquick the BH id stats that the BHG probides a multitude of security sirvices in addition to bountyhunting. ICO carrys on this tridition. bounty hunting itself is not as profitabel as it could be thus thay recive income from a multitude of profiabel venues.
no quit it with thay cap spaming bs ICO has 3 caps 0 of them are Battleships one of witch is not reliabel. the rest are GBs figthers, and bombers. we have less caps then most factions, we just deploy them more. end of story.
EDIT: sorry not the id the faction discreption in the rep menu.
If I die bury me with a rocket luancher, and a shotgun. I am going to have some house cleaning to do.
' Wrote:chill with the cap spaming huh. yeha till three days ago ICO had only 2 caps a distroyer and a BC, now we got a dis and 2 BCS, we dont even deploy BSs but these days if you fly even one cap you are spaming. and no i wont stop thank you for te advice but figthers are boring stupid looking and too hard to play on dail up. oh and lastly the reason why we consist primarly of caps is becuse all of are eneamy send hunting partys after ICO ships on a reguler bases. these partys usuely consit of atleast a BS and support. so no we will not weakin areselves for sportsmenship.
lets see.. what have we here.
1. the ICO are bounty hunters, with their priorities so screwed up, they cant tell the difference between anything. they tried to first have a contract with CORSAIRS (which failed) then, they came to liberty to have a contract with the LSF (which seems to me as if its failing as well). they have nothing smaller than a gunboat, they have a fleet of cap ships, even if they are not battleships (its bloody well bad enough), they refuse to fight in anything smaller because 'the enemy brings loads of cap ships'.
2. there are way too many freelance battleships (if not those, then other types of cap ships which can be easily afforded). everytime someone sees conflict in NY, they switch to their fl lawfuls in Liberty, just to get the kill, and if not kill, claim a huge victory.
3. The LSF have been called cap whores, even though i have never seen more than 1 cap ship out at any given time (apart from rare occasions when more are needed). they do have a bomber squad, they have a fighter squad, and most of the forces in the LSF normally use their fighters. there are 2 (maybe 3) active gunboats which ive seen the LSF use, as support for the fighters (the bombers cant always be there, so the GB acts as support)
4. The LH come only in fighters, and maybe a gunship to escort, but apart from that, they dont even have a capship (as far as i know). the LR, ive only dealt with 3 of them (corrupted, graviton and bob) one is a LF, ones is the flag ship (destroyer atm) and one is a bomber. im sure they have more than that, but i havent seen more. another LR faction, called the AR have more gunboats than any faction ive ever seen, and whenever they do attack, they come in those. the HF is pretty inactive atm, except for a few chars who do raids when they can. the RoS sometimes come to NY to attack liberty (cuz they can, for one, they have outcast NPCs in liberty, and they can form a really good RP reason to attack therefore, unlike corsairs raiding liberty)
1. put a ban on any mercs you see, except some you see (like kress suggested. my merc is now on KoS for SA for accepting a Xeno's business proposition and engaging and destroying a lawful, which is the right thing to do in such situations tbh). this prevents many merc you see hanging around in NY from doing just that. ive seen a merc, who sat in front of the lawfuls for an hour, and just when the unlawfuls came, he started to attack the lawfuls. after the fight, he was back to sitting outside manhatten, in front of the goliath. how is that within RP. not only was he breaking a rule, but also, explain to me how a dead guy is supposed to be sitting in space, after he was killed 'waiting for a contract' in RP?
2. the ICO have no control over liberty space. they are bounty hunters, so they cannot go about acting superior, especially if an LSF/SA member is present. even a private in the SA/LSF should have more authority than any bounty hunter in liberty. therefore, this also means that the ICO should not go about engaging anything and everything that seems red and hostile to them.
3. after reading the sanction reports for the ICO, heres a point id like to bring up. normally, when you are in a fight, i know its pretty hard for some people to scan for id rank etc, but there is a solution, if not the best one. i dont say rely by this, but it is normally accurate, unless someone did a money transfer or something. the best way to find out a person's rank quickly, if you cant check is this: when you select a person, the box that shows up, in the top right hand corner there is a number. that number normally tells you the rank of the person, if he hasnt gone about doing any transfer or such. (heres a screenshot of what im talking about. as you can see, when i selected the person, a box thingy showed up around his ship, with a number in the top right hand corner. this number is normally the rank of a person)
4. enforcing a ban on all independant cap ships. why the hell would the liberty navy sell thier own capital ships to freelancers, especially in this day and age, where the outcasts, lane hackers and the xenos are such a big threat? half of the people in NY with lawful cap ships are those people who either didnt get into the faction they wanted to, with their battleship, or those who like to win by cap spamming, and have a general disregard for any rules that are in place. its well known how many 'newbs' (not meant in a derogatory sense) come along to this server, and literally trade day and night, just so they can buy a battleship, and roam about, acting all hard. the best thing, when they find a bomber can beat the **** out of them, anyday, specially when they cant aim.
5. the LSF had a few LFs in their squad, ive seen em. sniper himself has one. i fully support that people should have a LF squad to tackle an enemy LF squad.( i can say, if support didnt show up when i fought corrupted in his LF, id have either run, or killed m self in RL, thats how annoying it was to fight his slipstream in my bomber. and yes, if support didnt show up, id have died eventually.)
these are the points i could think of at the moment, since im supposed to be getting ready to head out to school.
firstly, do NOT take my post as any sort of flaming. its how i see the situation, and how i feel about it (yes this is pointed towards blackdragon, since he feels everyone is flaming his ICO faction). secondly, these are my thoughts and my thoughts only. and finally, sorry for the wall of text :lol:
Now this is fun. When I helped start ICO I didn't think people would climb up their own a*ses just to make us look bad, but I guess we did something right for all this attention. An, of course, I do so love it when strangers try and tell us what our polocies are and what kind of guys we are. Because who could possibly know us better than people with second-hand information?
We have said our peace about this. If anybody has anymore questions feel free to PM one of us directally. Your feeding frenzy is over, people. Get back to gaming.
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