Rheinland Battlecruiser RABC (Megalodon class)

[Valhalla Sr.]

I agree with AD, the model looks good, but i don't see it as a RMBC

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[Reptile]

then move it to police (rheinland) armored transport.

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[EisenSeele]

Perhaps it could be a proper rheinland transport?

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[Reptile]

yeah,kinda liberty bison,only much armored and more powerful,like it must be in Rheinland style.

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[SparkyRailgun]

I was explaining why Railgun's Rheinland Battlecruiser is not being included, not contradicting his statement.

I thought Hades made it very clear in the thread (in his childish, one-sided way) that the submitted work had none of my work in it.

We won't talk too much about how I offered all of my wip files (in which most of the work had already been done) to the rest of the team after I said I had no interest in the project anymore.

Regardless, is the Ship Submissions subforum not only for completed submissions, not concept art?

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[AeternusDoleo]

I don't mind folk getting input on concepts before expending the effort to create a full model.

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[t0l]

I feel as if the LABC is just an alternative to the LSC, because its weak compared to Scylla and RMC, and not everyone can aim that big gun.

The RM already have the Cruiser, an RMBC wouldn't really do much better.

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[Eonaros]

As AD said, Rheinland already has its own Cruiser.But, adding the RMBC would make such an unbalance in Sirius power , considering:

Liberty has:

Liberty Gunboat
LSC
LABC
Liberty Dreadnought
Liberty Carrier

Kusari has:

Kusari Gunboat
Hatchet
Komainu
Kusari Battleship

Gallia has:

Gallic Gunboat
Obsitinate
Valor ( OP )

Rheinland has:

Rheinland Gunboat
Rheinland Cruiser
Rheinland Carrier
Turtle

Bretonia has:

Bretonian Gunboat
Bretonian Destroyer
Bretonian Battleship.

Adding the RMBC would leave Bretonia with only 3 Capital ships, which is to me complete unballance.The concept itself is good, but making it a transport ( as other already mentioned ) would be good.This model could also be used as a replace for Collosus ( That Rheinland-ish train )

[Gentlefood]

Adding the RMBC would leave Bretonia with only 3 Capital ships, which is to me complete unballance.

This is a terrible argument and I'll explain why. Adding a new ship to any shipline does not "leave X shipline with Y ships". It is not the fault of the original shipline that X has less ships in it. You should not prevent the addition of new ships based on the fact that another shipline is incomplete.

If you feel a shipline is incomplete contract/hire/model new ships yourself to fill the slots. In fact I'm fairly certain that complaints of "Y shipline has ships and X shipline doesn't go model X shipline" are actually against the rules of this subsection.

As for a RMBC my input remains the same the last time one, fully modeled ready to go, RMBC was attempted to be added to the mod. Diversity and variety does not equate imbalance. Does the RMBC have a slot in the Rheinland Line? Perhaps not. But that doesn't mean the Rheinland line is complete.

If anything Rheinland needs a Light Cruiser to complete its line. Which a scaled down version of the prior RMBC would probably have fit nicely in retrospect.

If we are to follow your model then this is what each shipline should have. Meaning at the very least each shipline should contain one of each.

(L/M/H) Gunboat <- Less important not 'true' capital craft
Light Cruiser
Heavy Cruiser
Light Battleship
Heavy Battleship

And possibly a Medium Battleship due to Kusari.

Liberty Gunboat (Medium Gunboat)
LSC (Light Cruiser)
LABC (Heavy Cruiser)
Liberty Dreadnought (Light Battleship)
Liberty Carrier (Dreadnaught)

Rheinland Gunboat (Heavy Gunboat)
Rheinland Cruiser (Heavy Cruiser)
Rheinland Carrier (Light Battleship)
Rheinland Battleship (Dreadnaught)


Kusari Gunboat (Medium Gunboat)
Hatchet ([very] Light Cruiser)
Komainu (Heavy Cruiser)
Kusari Battleship (Dreadnaught? Sorta falls on Medium BS here)


Bretonian Gunboat (Heavy GB)
Bretonian Destroyer (Heavy Cruiser)
Bretonian Battleship. (Dreadnaught)

Gallic Gunboat (Heavy GB)
Obsitinate (Heavy Cruiser)
Valor (Dreadnaught)

tl; dr

Just because one shipline is more incomplete doesn't mean another shipline should be denied completion; The Rheinland line is incomplete but it doesn't lack a heavy cruiser it lacks a light one.

I'm always a proponent of variety in shiplines, the current design proposed here looks more akin to a heavy freighter than a cruiser, not a terrible design and does match the vanilla style.

[SMGSterlin]

That's a very Rheinland looking model, good design.

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