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Jinx · 02-23-2008, 08:29 PM,

leaves one more question about the camera angle..... does "dragging" the manouver bar more to the screen edge make the fighter turn faster? - or does it turn at maximum turnspeed when you see the 5 or so arrows.

i am not 100% certain about this - allthough it makes sense. - i was flying a griffin LF mk2 as clover against a BHG manta. - i was only dodging and got hit like all the time.. that never happens to me when i fly the hammerhead. when i concentrate on dodging only without any thought on hitting the enemy, i can usually evade pretty much every shot, at least enough so the shield does not take more damage than it regens.

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Equinox · 02-23-2008, 08:34 PM,

I voted yes.

Doom · 02-23-2008, 08:35 PM,

ask LSF and SA how agile and fast Eagle is...even LFs have trouble getting behind my Eagle...its all in how you fly it..every vanilla VHF has its flaws and good sides...it is just important to learn how to use good things to your advantage and hide your flaws.

Sabre maybe doesn't turn as good as eagle..but on head to head it strafes so good that barely can be hit, while eagle is very large target. Titan, also turns slower but boost in hull and power plant give it a bit of edge against weaker fighters.

Every ship has its purpose...we are asking too much if we ask for uber multi purpose ship...

Othman · 02-23-2008, 08:35 PM,

' Wrote:I agree, but I think that only the Titan should get the upgrade.
I agree with Mjolnir and Doom that it is really a bug that the new ships don't do this, but revamping all the ships will probably take too much time for Igiss. If this were possible, and several people got together to help Igiss out, this would definitely be the best solution possible. I fear, however, that this is impossible.

Leaving the Titan as it is now and modelling a new VHF for the Corsairs could be a practical solution..

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McNeo · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2008, 08:39 PM by McNeo.)

Jinx, that Manta, Mandy Payne, was me.

My loadout is an experimental one, with mixed refires, to give the impression of constant damage.

After I chased you away I killed two other fighters without refilling.

The closer your mouse cursor is to the edge of the screen, the harder it turns. The arrows you see are purely cosmetic. Also, you should strafe more...

And as I detailed, my style is maximum damage, minimum time, full guns. LFs are my speciality. Yesterday, I minced a Loki in a Titan. Of course, the Titan has potential, but you need to be good to fly one. You don't need to be good to fly a Sabre or an Eagle, at least not on the same level.

EDIT: The Titan is a great ship for piracy, as far as it goes. The more armour and the higher the powerplant, the better it is for piracy. Which is why bombers are even better, if you know what I mean.

The Titan's main purpose has been superceded by an entire class, and the others have only been improved to become better in the fleet battles. This is also true for the Templar, and the Nepthys.

Othman · 02-23-2008, 08:38 PM,

' Wrote:Titan, also turns slower but boost in hull and power plant give it a bit of edge against weaker fighters.

Every ship has its purpose...we are asking too much if we ask for uber multi purpose ship...

You should try to fly a Titan against a good Sabre pilot..

On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.

Doom · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2008, 08:41 PM by Doom.)

' Wrote:Of course, the Titan has potential, but you need to be good to fly one. You don't need to be good to fly a Sabre or an Eagle, at least not on the same level

YES!!!..to fly a Titan u need to be hell of a pilot...Unlike Eagle or Sabre, Titan doesn't forgive mistakes

Quote:You should try to fly a Titan against a good Sabre pilot..

Sabres are so good that even in eagle good pilot has trouble with it...but this isn't balancing thread...

Othman · 02-23-2008, 08:45 PM,

' Wrote:YES!!!..to fly a Titan u need to be hell of a pilot...Unlike Eagle or Sabre, Titan doesn't forgive mistakes
Sabres are so good that even in eagle good pilot has trouble with it...but this isn't balancing thread...

Indeed, I was in the effect of the balance thread, sorry..

On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.

globalplayer-svk · 02-23-2008, 08:55 PM,

i vote yes. because at first i fly in titan and many tiems i am killed by one gb/cr/bs missile or one mine or sunslayer

second thing is taht my fastest fight was again Guardian and that fight was 1,5 sec long. i was in raven claw and i destroy his shield then drop mine and over. another bad thing.

sabre is maybe one of the 3 best ships but not the best and still can be killed with one torp/nuce mine.

and titan. all know that titan has really strong hull,but is it not the same to have 500 and 15000 hull when you are destroyed by one mine or torpedo? and how many titans was in fight destroyed without mines or torpedoes? i think when someone make statistic it will be interesing numbers.(with/without mines and torpedoes or missiles)

Horon · 02-23-2008, 09:20 PM,

Was going to say something, but I forgot what it was....damn it! It was really important too!
From what I DO remember, YES we need some new versions.

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Poll: Does Discovery Mod need remade MkII versions of vanilla VHFs? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes	72.73%	64	72.73%
No	27.27%	24	27.27%
Total		88 vote(s)	100%