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Pirate ID update
Offline Tutashkhia
02-11-2015, 10:04 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-11-2015, 10:13 AM by Tutashkhia.)
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(02-11-2015, 07:30 AM)Garrett Jax Wrote: First, you abused the ID by having more than one ID per Faction. Second, you tried to bypass this by making two different tags for your Faction. Third, you abused your ID by allying with Kusari lawfuls. Fourth, you abused your ID by allying with ships that did not share the same affiliation as you. Fifth, you abused your ID by making demands of lawfuls, knowing full well they wouldn't pay, simply to be able to pvp them.

First, Having two ID per Faction is a rule violation not a Pirate ID abuse. Pirate ID was used only on one tag, and FL IFF... and was doing whatever the ID was allowing it.

Second, I don't see what's in having two different tags for my faction is an Pirate ID abuse (which was used only on one tag). And as I said, didn't really know if it was not allowed,'cause there were and still is/are factions who did the same and didn't have any problem.

Third, like I was the only one with a Pirate ID who jumped in two lawful's battle and shot one of them. inRP me shooting the LNS and not KNF can be explained. And to be honest, didn't know if it was against rules or an ID abuse too, as I saw lots of people/groups with Pirate IDs doing the same. And I've done that many times too, especially in LNS vs RNC battles and never had any problem for it before.

Fourth, I was only doing whatever my ID allowed me. Made demands on lawfuls and blasted them away if they refused (as you said in the previous post I still can in non house system, and isn't an abuse). No matter if the Rogue or Outcast who were near me shot the same target with me too. I've never shot a lawful without making a demand or without assisting other Pirate ID'd players. Of course, most of lawfuls don't pay when you make demands, but those who paid weren't touched by us. (and I've screens of LNS , RNC paying me). And it's even more pleasure than being paid by a trader.

Fifth, in your previous post you said that I still can make demands and blast them away if they refuse in non house systems now, without being called an ID abuser. I don't understand you now. If it was an abuse one month ago, what makes it normal now? If doing that in Stuttgard system is an abuse and now allowed, and doing exactly the same in Omega-7 is normal and allowed then.... Just seems a bit stupid for me. To be honest, If I was a lawful blaming Tutashkhia abusing Pirate ID one month ago for demanding me, I'll complain and call him an ID abuser again if I get demanded by him in Omega-7 too. And such people will surely start complaining about it.

Edit: From those arguments you stated in your post, logically only one was a sample of an ID Abuse (demanding lawfuls), which isn't now in the non house systems. The rest were just my bad, which we have already discussed and doesn't happen any more.
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Offline Garrett Jax
02-11-2015, 12:38 PM,
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(facepalm)

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Offline Fluffyball
02-11-2015, 12:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-11-2015, 12:53 PM by Fluffyball.)
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(02-11-2015, 12:38 PM)Garrett Jax Wrote: (facepalm)
You know the epic fail is epic, when even Garret Jax have to facepalm.

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Offline Highland Laddie
02-11-2015, 03:57 PM,
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I think the change is good. The whiners just want a go-anywhere ID with limitless pew restrictions. Hopefully, this will make them think a little first. We'll see.
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Offline Sanctions
02-11-2015, 04:08 PM,
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As was said already, ID's still fine. Use your brain and go fast.
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Offline Veygaar
02-11-2015, 04:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-11-2015, 04:35 PM by Veygaar.)
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Nothing has changed honestly. Not by much.

Just gotta get my laptop fixed. Or get a desktop.

Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!
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Offline Haste
02-11-2015, 04:52 PM,
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I think this version is pretty neat. It makes sense that pirates would be bolder in unpatrolled, "uncharted" space. At the same time, anyone can roleplay the "pirate a transport and run away to the next pirating location" type of pirate in house space. It's just no longer an open, Sirius-wide terrorist ID.

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Offline Lythrilux
02-11-2015, 05:18 PM,
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I'm still a bit skeptical, although I think this version of the ID can really work.

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Offline Edward Teach
02-12-2015, 01:32 PM,
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There's not always RP. After Jump felt only till 3600 i started to pirate. And what i see? Everyone who i robed or going to robe taking fighters, gunboats, Cruisers and even ones a battleship to kill me. And they opening fire without even saying anything. Just coming close and opening fire to kil. Is that normal? And for new type of ID, it's good. I like it.
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Offline Fluffyball
02-14-2015, 07:31 PM,
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There's an error in new ID, which was overlooked I believe:

Quote:- Cannot use any transports with more than 3,600 cargo.
but
Quote:Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, PTrain

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