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Offline Sturmwind
05-19-2015, 10:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-19-2015, 10:19 PM by Sturmwind.)
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So if something unlawful happens inside omega 7, the RM / RFP cannot enforce Rheinland laws even if they recieved solid evidence from a third party?

What if they get evidence from indy RM?
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Offline WesternPeregrine
05-19-2015, 10:22 PM,
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(05-19-2015, 10:18 PM)Sturmwind Wrote: So if something unlawful happens inside omega 7, the RM / RFP cannot enforce Rheinland laws even if they recieved solid evidence from a third party?

What if they get evidence from indy RM?

Quote:Outer Regional Space
- House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences upon any players and factions found breaking House Laws within Outer Regional Space, only if they are personally there to witness to the legal infraction while uncloaked and equipped with a House Military, Police, or Intelligence faction ID.
- House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may not enforce roleplay consequences upon non-hostile POBs, breaking House Laws or not, within Outer Regional Space.

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-All Factions remain bound by their respective ID restrictions and allowances. In case of a conflict, the ID overrides server rules.
- House Miltary, Police and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences only for actions occurring within their ZOI.

Not enough to act upon, but good to start an investigation about.

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Offline jammi
05-19-2015, 10:24 PM,
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(05-19-2015, 10:18 PM)Sturmwind Wrote: So if something unlawful happens inside omega 7, the RM / RFP cannot enforce Rheinland laws even if they recieved solid evidence from a third party?

What if they get evidence from indy RM?
Indy RM has an RM ID, so that's fine. The text says ID and not player faction, after all. And you're right, third parties can't report stuff any more.

Presumably that means mercs that are hunting corporate targets in the border systems can't be FR5'd any more unless the violation is witnessed by a law enforcement ID'd ship. Example relevant.

As WPeregrine says, it's an incentive to launch additional patrols. I imagine a sufficiently corrupt state might not be so inclined to book in those extra patrols though. Again, if you catch my drift.
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Offline Garrett Jax
05-19-2015, 10:25 PM,
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(05-19-2015, 10:18 PM)Sturmwind Wrote: So if something unlawful happens inside omega 7, the RM / RFP cannot enforce Rheinland laws even if they recieved solid evidence from a third party?

What if they get evidence from indy RM?

As long as the indie RM carries the right ID and witnesses the law violation in an uncloaked ship, then sure.


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Offline Jack_Henderson
05-19-2015, 10:26 PM,
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(05-19-2015, 10:18 PM)Sturmwind Wrote: So if something unlawful happens inside omega 7, the RM / RFP cannot enforce Rheinland laws even if they recieved solid evidence from a third party?

What if they get evidence from indy RM?

kek. Someone found another way to undercut the reasonably adjusted solution we have now.
Wow. Smile

So, have an indie RFP or RM, and immediately log it when something is not working as you want it. Gud rp. That's what the Omegas are meant to be... "quick! log lawful!"-territory instead of having corporate rivalry played as it is meant to be played. Big Grin

How obvious can you guys even be in your resistance to the needed change that is really harmless compared to what it used to be?
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Offline jammi
05-19-2015, 10:30 PM,
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(05-19-2015, 10:26 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: kek. Someone found another way to undercut the reasonably adjusted solution we have now.
Wow. Smile

So, have an indie RFP or RM, and immediately log it when something is not working as you want it. Gud rp. That's what the Omegas are meant to be... "quick! log lawful!"-territory instead of having corporate rivalry played as it is meant to be played. Big Grin

How obvious can you guys even be in your resistance to the needed change that is really harmless compared to what it used to be?
Seeing as the old ID restrictions are back in play... wouldn't they just log their own faction ships if they wanted to suddenly pounce on you? Using indies would actually be the harder route, seeing as they already have faction ships that can do exactly the same ships. I don't get it.
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Offline Jack_Henderson
05-19-2015, 10:35 PM,
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Nono! Smile This is the workaround:

Imagine... hypothetical... an IMG wants to force a Kruger miner to fill him up for dangerously low price.

Who would you log now to help that poor extorted miner?

> in reality: a Kruger and pounce on the attacker
> in Disco: an RM/RFP indie (so you can pew + have rp consequences)

Obvious advantage, isn't it? Big Grin

Anyway, won't cause a lot of problems (at least not for me), it was just a funny observation seeing the question asked that bluntly by the exactly right person Big Grin

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Offline Ryummel
05-19-2015, 10:37 PM,
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Offline Jack_Henderson
05-19-2015, 10:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-19-2015, 10:39 PM by Jack_Henderson.)
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(05-19-2015, 09:13 PM)Garrett Jax Wrote: The House Military, Police and Intelligence faction ID's have been reverted to their original form. The Admins have taken community input into consideration and implemented suggestions brought forth by @Blodo, @Teerin and various faction leaders.

[...].

And: Very well done!
I knew a way would be found to allow things like BAF-Sairs fights in O3 and Hessians-RM raids in O7 while giving borderworld dwellers some more freedom.

Kudos for - imo - finding a very good solution. Smile

Jack - happy about what he sees here.
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Offline Sturmwind
05-19-2015, 10:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-19-2015, 10:40 PM by Sturmwind.)
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(05-19-2015, 10:26 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:18 PM)Sturmwind Wrote: So if something unlawful happens inside omega 7, the RM / RFP cannot enforce Rheinland laws even if they recieved solid evidence from a third party?

What if they get evidence from indy RM?

kek. Someone found another way to undercut the reasonably adjusted solution we have now.
Wow. Smile

So, have an indie RFP or RM, and immediately log it when something is not working as you want it. Gud rp. That's what the Omegas are meant to be... "quick! log lawful!"-territory instead of having corporate rivalry played as it is meant to be played. Big Grin

How obvious can you guys even be in your resistance to the needed change that is really harmless compared to what it used to be?

Playing that game again? K.

I was actually thinking the IMG members would log their RM indies, since we cant accept IMG evidence and your faction has a tendency to come to us for solving their problems.

The RM is not involved with the corporate wars in any way, I for one fly a Samura.
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