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Offline Wolfpack98
06-05-2006, 01:53 AM,
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OFF TOPIC

Dab, any problems I have with Nightfall is a business between me and Him. We have settled that much in private.

now drop it. It's honestly none of your business.

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Offline Dab
06-05-2006, 01:59 AM,
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Well I feel like it does have something to do with me when you treat a clan member and friend rudely.

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Offline Korrd
06-05-2006, 04:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-05-2006, 04:15 AM by Korrd.)
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Wolf, Dab. Calm down. This is the Shields topic, not your personal flame wars.
@wolf: you are taking this personal now. And you are a bit out of yourself. Calm down and rethink the situation please.
@Dab: You are getting this personal too. And you get your noose where it does not belong sometimes.
@Both. Drop your proudness now and solve this like civilized men, not ranting kids, before things go out of hands.
I will close the topic if i find just 1 or more post regarding the situation. This has gone too far.
You 2 have started a personal war and are taking it to every thread you have chance to fight. Now, you should solve this situation privately, not all arround the forum.

I dont want to read a thing more about this. Is that Understood?

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Offline Igiss
06-05-2006, 09:04 AM,
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Ok, I agree with Korrd, stop the flame... enough, it really becomes dull. As for Nightfall, he does tend to say weird things sometimes but I also don't understand what's wrong between Wolf and him. I also wonder why Dab started all this mess in this thread... I don't know about others, but I usually read all suggestions concerning new mod features. If you are being criticised by someone, it doesn't mean that you won't be heard.

Getting back to topic. There are equipment levels, so I cannot do something like

BS - BS Shileld
- CR Shield and lower

CR - BS Shield
- CR Shield and lower

GB - CR Shield
- GB Shield and lower

What level should Cruiser Shield be then? If it's 9, it's equippable on gunboats, transports etc. If it's 10, it's not equippable on gunboats or anything below. You can't make it level 9,5 or something.

I actually agree with Dab about liners, though most people seem to favor an opposite point of view. I guess the conclusion will come while testing the new version.
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Offline Jamez
06-05-2006, 03:55 PM,
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Quote:What level should Cruiser Shield be then? If it's 9, it's equippable on gunboats, transports etc. If it's 10, it's not equippable on gunboats or anything below.

A cruiser shield SHOULD NOT be mountable on a Gunboat.

Cruiser/BS shield class 10, GB and freighter shields class 9 and below.

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Offline Korrd
06-05-2006, 05:03 PM,
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I agree with Jamez. A GB with BS shields is unstoppable. Wolf and I onc eengaged against a GB with bs shields. We were unable to lower its shieds as the sields were too strong, and regenerated too fast.

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Offline Dab
06-05-2006, 05:27 PM,
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I was thinking, since cap-ships won't be using fighter shields a shield mount of lvl 2 would not be a problem. So BS - lvl 10 class, CR - lvl 9, GB - lvl 8, liners - lvl 8 or 9, transports - lvl 7. That was you couldn't have ships with the other shield equiped.

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Offline Jamez
06-05-2006, 05:43 PM,
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I like Dab's idea as it would create a better balance than my idea but some people obviously cannot realise this.

People stop thinking about your ships and think of the mod.

I admit I used to do that but I have realised I am wrong.

Dont make the same mistake I did.

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Offline Dab
06-05-2006, 05:49 PM,
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Well thinking this idea came easily to me. I've never used a BS shield on anything other than a BS, CR shield on anything other than a CR etc etc. I did that because I realised that its called a BS shield for the reason it should only be used on a BS. I see FL as a game that focuses on skill. The SP campaigns last few missions show this as you are vastly outgunned and the enemy has better ships. If we don't balance everything we can it no longer becomes a game focused on skill, but focused on which ship is more overpowered. I never even complaigned when ships I had were downgraded to a balanced level because I knew the mod was more important than me winning. The only things I even complaigned about that was fixed was the Blood Dragon and thats because its agility is in between that of a bomber and a VHF... Still.

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Offline Korrd
06-05-2006, 07:57 PM,
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You mean leveled freighter shields?
Good idea. As fighters cant mount fr shields.
It will require a lot of work, i think, to rebelance all the fr shields in the mod.

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