Regarding Lazy Players

[Tutashkhia]

did you read my horrendously tired at 12:05pm post? probably.

Technology & architecture changes. The consistancy of the provided images. The ships and bystanders present. And the timestamp - yes, they're in RP. [/color]

By the evidences you provided to Junkers, Junkers have no right in RP to fine/tell anything to those players (who are shown in your screenshots). Of course, except the Battleship. I will repeat, I'm not arguing about the Battleship here. But aside the Battleship, there are quite many ships who now have to pay the fine to Junkers, which they shouldn't in RP, and if they RP it out, they won't even pay it. And in that case, Junkers will have nothing to do against them. (Again, I'm not talking about the Battleship).

[Reeves]

did you read my horrendously tired at 12:05pm post? probably.

Technology & architecture changes. The consistancy of the provided images. The ships and bystanders present. And the timestamp - yes, they're in RP. [/color]

By the evidences you provided to Junkers, Junkers have no right in RP to fine/tell anything to those players (who are shown in your screenshots). Of course, except the Battleship. I will repeat, I'm not arguing about the Battleship here. But aside the Battleship, there are quite many ships who now have to pay the fine to Junkers, which they shouldn't in RP, and if they RP it out, they won't even pay it. And in that case, Junkers will have nothing to do against them. (Again, I'm not talking about the Battleship).

They can still, you know. Not open the hangars when you need to dock and evade the cops though, that's still a thing.

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[Kauket]

did you read my horrendously tired at 12:05pm post? probably.

Technology & architecture changes. The consistancy of the provided images. The ships and bystanders present. And the timestamp - yes, they're in RP. [/color]

By the evidences you provided to Junkers, Junkers have no right in RP to fine/tell anything to those players (who are shown in your screenshots). Of course, except the Battleship. I will repeat, I'm not arguing about the Battleship here. But aside the Battleship, there are quite many ships who now have to pay the fine to Junkers, which they shouldn't in RP, and if they RP it out, they won't even pay it. And in that case, Junkers will have nothing to do against them. (Again, I'm not talking about the Battleship).

yeah but, they're still /basing/ out of the base to shoot lawfuls. If they really insist on more screenshots/evidence, I can easily show them the other screenshots of them engaged with lawfuls.


Another option from the start is to blackmail the Junkers to send to LibGov but that's within my character's interests/would make diplomacy awkward.

in the end, it's their base. if they don't want you around, then, whelp.

[Tutashkhia]

@"Auzari" , sadly they haven't tried to fine me. I would surely insist on more screenshots/evidences. And I'm sure, they would fail at providing more evidences which would give them the right to fine me.

And as a Junker, I would RP it and ask from the lawful side (or whoever provided the evidences), to give an useful evidences. That those evidences/screenshots aren't valid. And depending on those screenshots, they can't do anything. In such case, everything would be fine. Get it as a recommendation for the next time. Use times, show when the screenshots are taken. And use more valid screenshots next time.

P.S Also, as in RP Junkers would have no threat from the lawful side too. As inRP they answered correctly. And there would be nothing to discuss about. But using the screenshots which can't really be valid inRP, is something far from a proper RP.

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[Stoner_Steve]

You both derailed my thread again, this thread isn't about if the "rp is valid" or not, because if it wasn't I wouldn't have sent out so many comms demanding credits

This threads purpose is to find a solution to the problem of me being required to hand out FR5 requests like candy because the majority of the players participating in the PoB siege are unwilling to cruise in open space for more than a minute

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[Stoner_Steve]

Look, all I am saying is there is a way to fix this, in my mind, in such a way that will prevent players from throwing a fit for getting caught

Either
1. Allow LPI to have no-dock commands on Rochester
2. Add another Rogue base in the Northern Scrap Field (maybe Western)
3. Add a one way JH from Buffalo to the northern area
4. Give Rochester to the unlawfuls (which would probably result in its inRP destruction)

I'm seriously open to anything

The simplest solution would be to finally add an ID line that restricts Outcast ID'd players from docking cruisers or Battleships in house space once and for all.

Or only ships belonging to the Official Faction could do it. Still leaves it open for RP if LH and Rogues ever request assistance. Kind of like how the Zoner Whale is only able to dock if it has a Official Faction ID equipped.

Exactly. To make it fair, do the same for Corsairs. It's really stupid for them to be sending any type of capital ship outside of the Omicrons/Omegas/Taus/Sigmas, where they're supposed to be shooting each other.

This is a very reasonable solution

Just to get us back on track

[NOVA-5]

Some grass of a Freelancer hanging around Rochester sending reports
around should be put out of their misery for sticking their noses in where it
doesn't belong anyway.

Loose lips sink ships.

[Snoflek]

Some grass of a Freelancer hanging around Rochester sending reports
around should be put out of their misery for sticking their noses in where it
doesn't belong anyway.

Loose lips sink ships.

Some Grass of an Auxesian, a faction that's had dealings with the Junkers before, and probably is more of a friend to them than the Outcasts are

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[Inferno]

Some grass of a Freelancer hanging around Rochester sending reports
around should be put out of their misery for sticking their noses in where it
doesn't belong anyway.

Loose lips sink ships.

Some Grass of an Auxesian, a faction that's had dealings with the Junkers before, and probably is more of a friend to them than the Outcasts are

Not to mention the Auxesians aren't the only ones who try to get to the Junkers about this.

I would like the Option Five people keep talking about, having the Junker bases being affected by /nodock. It would put less strain on the junkers as the Naval and Police factions stand over them with a dreadnought.

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The simplest solution would be to finally add an ID line that restricts Outcast ID'd players from docking cruisers or Battleships in house space once and for all.

Or only ships belonging to the Official Faction could do it. Still leaves it open for RP if LH and Rogues ever request assistance. Kind of like how the Zoner Whale is only able to dock if it has a Official Faction ID equipped.

Exactly. To make it fair, do the same for Corsairs. It's really stupid for them to be sending any type of capital ship outside of the Omicrons/Omegas/Taus/Sigmas, where they're supposed to be shooting each other.

This is a very reasonable solution

This too. In concept staging from Buffalo is safer anyway. Dark, stormy, patrolled by Rogue GBs, Navy only goes there when chasing people 130k on thrusters, plus an intersystem jumphole that you can use to change plans if you run into trouble.

[Stoner_Steve]

I would like the Option Five people keep talking about, having the Junker bases being affected by /nodock. It would put less strain on the junkers as the Naval and Police factions stand over them with a dreadnought.

Thank you for staying on topic. Just for reference though /nodock would only be extended to LPI, as far as I'm aware House Navy's don't have the command