[Official Event] Convergence on Manhattan

[Dhomie42]

Why add lsf and not LN?

The event centers around freighter usage primarily. If I had LPI only, I think the event would be too easy for the smugglers. If it involved all the Navy, they would just park their caps at the dock and shoot anything that moves, making it too hard for the smugglers. I tried to find a balance. It may be all for nought anyways, since I can’t really stop LN from participating in the event just as I’m not really keen on babysitting this event to make sure unlawfuls don’t fly caps into Liberty and turn NY into a great big ball of fire. So, long story short, I want to encourage LPI to participate, and if I rewarded LN with kill and credit points, nobody would fly LPI. Therefore, it may turn into cap hell in NY over the weekend, but freighters will get one heck of a stress test, the LPI will get filthy rich and freighter purchases will go through the roof.

Both LPI and LSF have access up to BCs, I don't think BSs from LN would make much of a difference. Missile BCs might prove to be far more dangerous than BSs anyhow.

[Aingar]

UC and Junkers seem to not have a return commodity available to them.
Can't read in the morning it seems.

[Lemon]

UC and Junkers seem to not have a return commodity available to them.

VIPs have a sell point added at originating bases afaik

[Lemon]

Why add lsf and not LN?

The event centers around freighter usage primarily. If I had LPI only, I think the event would be too easy for the smugglers. If it involved all the Navy, they would just park their caps at the dock and shoot anything that moves, making it too hard for the smugglers. I tried to find a balance. It may be all for nought anyways, since I can’t really stop LN from participating in the event just as I’m not really keen on babysitting this event to make sure unlawfuls don’t fly caps into Liberty and turn NY into a great big ball of fire. So, long story short, I want to encourage LPI to participate, and if I rewarded LN with kill and credit points, nobody would fly LPI. Therefore, it may turn into cap hell in NY over the weekend, but freighters will get one heck of a stress test, the LPI will get filthy rich and freighter purchases will go through the roof.

Both LPI and LSF have access up to BCs, I don't think BSs from LN would make much of a difference. Missile BCs might prove to be far more dangerous than BSs anyhow.

One true thing is that Navy is in Vespucci, in RP they wouldn't be dealing with some freighter smugglers en masse - so it's fine I suppose. We will show up on navy freighters anyways for some Freighter on Freighter violence - you can always ask LPI to sell commod for you on their PoB.

[Xenon]

Can the drop site be 2 places even in the same system (new york)?
I mean the planet and somewhere else also. To make the action devived on 2 places... spicier

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[Skorak]

It can't be but it'd also actually make it less 'spicy'

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[SeaFalcon]

Group Seven: Liberty Lawfuls
Liberty Police ID, LPI-, =LSF=, Liberty Security Force ID

So the Liberty Navy will just sit on their hands and watch as everything unfolds?

Edit: So Navy isn't rewarded but still able to handle the hostiles?
I honestly couldn't care less about the rewards. Just want to see some action.

Edit2: Can't you make a plugin that caps aren't included in the reward system? Since last I recall, LPI owns liberty dreads and LSF also has caps

Edit3: having just one drop off point will be a pain for both sides. It will just mean it all gets cluttered before Manahattan and you will find a lot of instant killing stuff there with double Nova or missiles from caps. I would rather have drop off points on all liberty planets but Manhattan with the highest pay off.

[Saronsen]

Edit2: Can't you make a plugin that caps aren't included in the reward system? Since last I recall, LPI owns liberty dreads and LSF also has caps

i honestly want to see caps try and fail all event to catch freighters

[Xithon]

@Garret Jax Firstly I want to say thank you for all the hard work you and others do for these events, they are a ton of fun and have brought a lot of activity to the server. I know a lot of the community is really appreciative of this.

To this point, I would like to voice my concern over Liberty Navy ID being excluded from this upcoming event. As the event currently stands, unlawful groups that can field caps will be invading Liberty with said caps. This is a certainty whether or not the event is intended for freighters. As things are now, Navy ID will be expected (and rightfully so) to log and deal with this nonstop. All the while the unlawful caps will be able to earn event payouts from destroying other ID's in the event.

Liberty Navy on the other hand will be fully expected to participate in anti-cap PVP, yet won't be able to earn event payouts. I don't think I need to explain any further why this needs to be addressed in some way. (either a plug-in excluding caps above GB from getting event payouts, or just let Navy ID participate.)

Moving on from Capitol ships, 46th for example has a fully dedicated combat-freighter squadron known as "Kodiak". These ships are perfect for this event, yet no one in the 46th can use them to participate. 5th, LN, and even 1st Armada likely have similar non-capitol class assets that will be excluded.

Can Navy ID players make LPI / LSF stuff and just suck it up? Yea some of us can maybe, or it might be the case that some don't have the means to do so, and have already invested heavily in an ID they can not use in the event.

Anyway, rant over. Thanks again for taking the time to consider my points here.

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[Megaera]

Smuggling events are always heavily favoured towards the smugglers. They will just wait till the lawfuls log out and then take out the transports. Or they will first log their caps to take out the blockade and then log their transports.

Excluding the navy is a terribly missed opportunity since lawfuls will just be terribly outnumbered anyway. Outcasts will invade with caps, sairs will invade with caps, and I am sure others will too.

Just let them participate in their own house. The cards are stacked against them anyway.
Or do the right thing and deny point scores to the cap swarms that will come to gank the LPI out of existance and make it a snub thing

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