Regarding the restriction on Liberty caps

[jshkornmiller]

Only problem with this is the LPI is underequipped to handle 99% of the pirates that enter manhattan, so yeah, the navy has been having to do their job.

I'm all for improving the experience for everyone, and having more fun, but so far, I haven't seen the evidence of these battlecruisers hunting down lone fighters,

This is RP, not balance everything. If the local police force is weak, then that is the fault of the government or corporations that they belong to. look at the pirate insadent that happened off of Somalia. where those pirates captured that frieghter with 37 tanks and tonnes and tonnes or weapons and arms. Countries have weak police and militaries.

As for the part about you never seeing cruiser spam. pfft. i remember several times being on Gneisenau and being taking down by two or three cruisers.

Remember malak a few of us idies have ben around a while. Kearsarge has been patroling for way more then a year.

Yes, i know this matt, but i also believe that kearsarge is not even piloted by the navy, and i also beleive he has been banned from liberty space.

[jimmy Patterson]

also in protest tothis i cant count how many times it was the battleship qyuebec(xing) and my gunboat(the falls) agenst say 4 gunboats bombers smugglers and such and how many times i called to LN for help and got "training " in response or when we had the constant spyglass raides the ln who were on had bombers but stayed in conecicut fighting eachotuer again with my gunboat a indie cruiser and the citadelle to fight the spyglass at least 2 destroyewr escourts and the odd bomber or two


bottem line the LN is makeing a huge mistake new york gets swamped by caps when your not on or are on as the caps you talk about ruining fun but when its one gunboat and battleship agenst every unlawful in sirus with the navy cowering in connecicut it kills funs

thats one of the reasons me and xing left

WE NEVER HAD SUPPORT CEPCT FROM INDIES

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[Xing]

although I wont blame that on the back of the LN necesarly. Beside, we did tend to go on at awkward hours... ^^"

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[Titan]

Jimmy that's the whole point, just because we're getting swamped by caps does not mean that we should answer back with caps. That's one of the purposes of this. If both sides are stubborn it will be just a fight between who can get more power traders to buy caps. This way we can restrict ourselves, and hopefully the pirates will join us in the fun and start using more fighters as well.

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[Cowboy]

Well, let's put it this way, a lot of the characterizations of both the prodigy and the kearsarge are blatantly false, that's why I'm one of the dissenters, and these two I have never seen actually chase down and kill a lone fighter, on the contrary, they get on their fighters and we roll out to hunt them down.

That's why I'm fighting tooth and nail and that's why I havent seen any evidence. Maybe there are other people doing it, but not these two.

Also, I don't even have a cap-ship (unless you count my transport) so, I got no dogs in this fight so to speak, I'm just here for the betting.

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Emmerson: Idealistic Freelancer, floating about Sirius to take in the sights, and make a little cash along the way.
KNF-Ichijo: Kusari gunboat crewed by Samurai loyal to the will of the Emperor. They bring his "Enlightenment" to Bretonian roundeyes.
Angus.McRae: Trader, miner, and all around carouser. Possible Molly ties?

[jimmy Patterson]

pfft every answer i get is learn to fly a fightewr well now i get technical firstly my conenction lags at peak times to a point where while fighter combat is possable i would just die due to lag because theres so many things going on at once to cope i fly caps secondly even if i had the conection permitting my reflexes (and ive trained)cant ciope woith the fighhter pace on this

and in defence to this

titian put yourself in my place 6 ln in connecicut 8pirates in new york at least 2 heavy caps(dessie or battleshi the rest in bombers or gunboats or bombers or a mix) no indies on but traders and one battleship and gunboat to defend agenst them the ln or whoever you wanna sub have bombers but wont join to defend enter indie caps who decide to log on as lawful they get smashed forceing me and the allied BS to retreat all the time while sevral calls for help go out but go unanswered because "were training to fight them or are dealing with under equiped units" obviously yhthe units helping the under equiped are combat worthy but refuse to join till after we die


does that sound like fun to you when they also die (and liberty becomes a pirate parking lot)because they dont have cap support and now a few pirates have fighters (ie turn the tables on what the lawfuls could of had)

if you answred yes then you have a very strange view on "fun"

i rest my case

compremise must be made

long story short iu got sick of the 106th vrs the galaxy senarios i was constantly put in and the constant times my calls for help were ignored what kinda navy trains whewn its capitol is under attack(il ladmit youve changed but im useing an example)

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[Titan]

Again, if you move caps against caps you give them fun and they'll just keep coming back for more and more. If you murder them with fighters or bombers, they'll get annoyed as they have little to no chance of scoring a kill. That is how you can reduce cap whorage, now I'm not asking for everyone to be in fighters, but I'm asking for some people that lack RP, to actually consider not using a cap and trying in a fighter first. Let me give you an example from tonight. The oh so great BC that we were fighting, swinging his mighty sword of justice and yelling how he was a loyal defender of Liberty, got attacked by the LN for disobeying orders, we didnt kill him first, just damaged him and he agreed to dock and go into custody. So we stopped firing and proceeded to escort him to the dock, at which point, his mighty RP made him decide to ram his battlecruiser into planet Manhattan, now can you give me one reason for why such a person should be allowed to fly a capital ship? Just name one reason.

Edit: Forgot to mention that he magically appeared in Texas later, with the same BC, and proceeded to argue with us about defecting from Liberty, right infront of two LN battleships, after he was classed a traitor and banned from Liberty, and then, again in RP he managed somehow to dock on a naval battleship, so, RP anyone?

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[Cowboy]

Everything is sorted cool your jets titan, you'll hear about it when Jihad explains it all.

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Emmerson: Idealistic Freelancer, floating about Sirius to take in the sights, and make a little cash along the way.
KNF-Ichijo: Kusari gunboat crewed by Samurai loyal to the will of the Emperor. They bring his "Enlightenment" to Bretonian roundeyes.
Angus.McRae: Trader, miner, and all around carouser. Possible Molly ties?

[Titan]

I know, and that's all everyone needed to do. Should've pointed you to this thread before telling you to dock..might've sold some issues:P

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[Jihadjoe]

Ok folks. I got on teamspeak with the Muntineers, explained my reasoning behind it and they all agreed.

These ships are...
Kearsarge_Matt
Commander_Lawson_Matt
LNS-Prodigy
John_Rudal
.Cowboy


They will be put through the same process as everyone else, and given the attitude they displayed they will, most likely have their ships approved.

Getting your ship approved is actualy rather easy. I'm not intending on acting as the RP police force here, and we're not expecting a masterpeice to get it approved. Just a little will do.

What we do expect however is a good attitude to other people's gameplay, which is exactly what I heard from both Matt and the LNS-Prodigy.

They are being added to the roster of approved ships, and going on the week long trial period. I will be posted the regulations for this very shortly. However now I have to go to bed, as it's 3am and I have to be at work tomorrow.

Jimmy, your ship is already on the roster of approved vessels, as we appreciate all you have done.

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