What exactly is the rule on bounties? RP question

[Elvin]

I don't know - the last time I ran into a 'pirate' in a bomber, it was two of them.

And the time before that, it was two bombers and a gunboat on the pirate side.

And the time before that it was two gunboats...

Maybe you should stop visiting pirate home-systems on your BH character:D

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/nat...047dd2441b9.png

i should have SS when he payed as well

but you see my point

Hah, that screenshot made my day. Reminds me of time where I have encountered Smuggler in Adv. Train (...) with MK VIII armor upgrade.... on LPI character...in LF. He said similar thing, and sadly, he was totally right.:D



But to the question, Nothing wrong in "hunting" together with another BH ( That actually is very RP, to go in action with a partner to ensure the win ), and nothing wrong with using a BC for it ( Thats not my opinion, I'm just speaking about rules ), as long as the employer wont say "No capital ships allowed".

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[Kambei]

most of bounties are uncolectable for BCs (kudos to creators of those) so yes, if you kill pirate without bounty on his head you are OORP. Anyway hunting lone fighter in BC is oorp too.

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[LA-384]

It all depends on the situation. I'd say it's ok to use bc or several bc's, but only when the target is surrounded by it's own capship support. Thing is that that doesn't happen all that often. Mostly it's that same cap-ship group against a single gunboat, bomber, fighter or even lightfighter. Sure the pirate can thrust away, but most of the time the bh's killed him before he knew what's going on.

http://dump.stoleyour.net/uploads/39d095b879.jpg
the third bhg-player used a gunboat as well (2gb, 1bc)
the green player was in a raven's talon.


I'm not saying that pirates and corsairs in general always play fair, but i bet most of the uneven encounters against bh's happen within gamma.

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[JIVA]

we might stop calling out everything "ooRP" and instead calling it "inappropriate" in a certain sense. - ooRP implies much more than just overkill or the creation of an unfair situation.

ooRP means that someone "is not playing the ROLE of the person he is supposed to play" - and that can hardly be applied to a battlecruiser chasing a starflier. - cause.... it can be very well IN the role of the person that is roleplayed to be a battlecruiser chasing this person.

furthermore - ooRP implies to be violating the RULES as such, while being inappropriate in a certain situation means just abusing certain strengthes compared to others.

a battlecruiser that is chasing and hunting a VHF can even be appropriate. - if some pirate is famous for his actions against the hunters faction - like some "red baron" guy - it IS appropriate to send heavy ships after him to minimize their own losses ( seeing that he is simply better in his fighter than any pilot you have ) - especially for a faction that does not so much care for the process but much more cares for the result.

in that case - it would be rather "inappropriate" to send a lone fighter against him, knowing that this fighter might be "fair" but probably lost - and even virtual roleplayed chars don t really like to die.

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[BeanzOnToast]

we might stop calling out everything "ooRP" and instead calling it "inappropriate" in a certain sense. - ooRP implies much more than just overkill or the creation of an unfair situation.

ooRP means that someone "is not playing the ROLE of the person he is supposed to play" - and that can hardly be applied to a battlecruiser chasing a starflier. - cause.... it can be very well IN the role of the person that is roleplayed to be a battlecruiser chasing this person.

furthermore - ooRP implies to be violating the RULES as such, while being inappropriate in a certain situation means just abusing certain strengthes compared to others.

a battlecruiser that is chasing and hunting a VHF can even be appropriate. - if some pirate is famous for his actions against the hunters faction - like some "red baron" guy - it IS appropriate to send heavy ships after him to minimize their own losses ( seeing that he is simply better in his fighter than any pilot you have ) - especially for a faction that does not so much care for the process but much more cares for the result.

in that case - it would be rather "inappropriate" to send a lone fighter against him, knowing that this fighter might be "fair" but probably lost - and even virtual roleplayed chars don t really like to die.

Problem lies in BH BC's wordlessly chasing everything thats red on their scanners just because they must kill it. Kind of enjoyed annoying one of them in my Dagger in NY. So is there any reason for a BC to chase a lone Dagger, equipped with fearsome lvl 3 or 4 blasters which is only flying around ?

Yet another example.

A fleet of BH's chasing my Battlestar from Delta to Gamma. I wasn't aware that they have any reason to hunt me so i tried to ask few questions while i was cruising away. Stopped by Gamma jumphole since i felt "reasonably safe" and of course while i was having conversation with one of the BH's (ironicaly he was piloting a fighter) Battleship and both Battle Cruisies opened fire on me. Still hoped they will stop before we've got a chance to talk but when my hull went down to ~50% i gave up. You would also expect such an organised hunting group including 3 or 4 cap ships to actually be able to disrupt their victim wouldnt you?

Of course in Gamma where they were seriously outnumbered who did the talking and who silently ran away ?

I honestly don't mind people flying caps as long as they behave reasonably. I do however try to hunt down the ones who mindlessly chase fighters "cause they can".

And as for OORP - i think that "Dai !" "dialogue" and shooting isn't exacly a form of "RP" we would expect.

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[Agmen of Eladesor]

Maybe you should stop visiting pirate home-systems on your BH character

I didn't know Cambridge, New London, and Dublin were pirate home systems. I'm sure that's a shock to the Bretonian government. :P <This is said firmly in fun - that's where the systems were the attacks took place, just as point of reference. >

we might stop calling out everything "ooRP" and instead calling it "inappropriate" in a certain sense. - ooRP implies much more than just overkill or the creation of an unfair situation.

Actually, this makes sense. I know that there are attempts to place current, modern military rules on our actions in the game. But that misses one minor point - in all true military sense, at least as far as modern warfare is concerned - it's not actually about being fair. It's all about killing the other guy before he kills you.

Hey, just ask Sergeant Schlock - "Rule 37 - there is no overkill. There is only open fire and time to reload."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlock_Merce...fective_Pirates

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20040406.html

If you're not reading Schlock - you're missing half the fun in the universe.
:yahoo:

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Weedalot]

heh.. though to be completely fair i do indeed understand... it is common at the moment for me to be flying around in my bomber and out of no where "Engaging!" and be raped by a OC Dessie. Then afterwards i might get a little little bit of RP like, "Oh, the lane hackers are gonna be paying me nicely for that one!"... and then they are gone.

Poof! dessie disappeared into slimline capwhoring air:)

Edit:

Right... my bad... i stopped following that topic a while back.

I agree that no side should do that.. before the Registration was lifted from OC dessie you wouldnt see this kind of behavior this why i think all caps should be enforced by the leaders "council" of that faction if a person have no RP (on the forum) he should not fly cap vessel in game just to have the opportunity to pick on a smaller target when the target is alone

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[Grimly]

.... I'd say there are hunters and ... others

*rolleyes*

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[El Nino]

Actually he does need a battleship. Some pwnsome Corsairs can solo battlecruisers.

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"A fleet of BH's chasing my Battlestar from Delta to Gamma. I wasn't aware that they have any reason to hunt me so i tried to ask few questions while i was cruising away."
Haha, that is funny Quozz, since when you see me and your in your battlestar you taunt me to collect the bounty on you.
BH have every reason to hunt you, you kill BH when you get the chance as do most corsair, so why not kill you?

And about all BH haveing cap ships. Well, you have to have a big ship when everywhere you go you get attacked by every gang of pirates that sees you.

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