Zoner RP Solutions

[bluntpencil2001]

I doubt Rheinland would be happy if the Corsairs were seen helping Kusari and the Zoners...

After all, the Corsairs tried to invade Rheinland only a year or two ago (and are somehow still able to be considered a threat after getting horribly beaten).

Liberty was close to banning Zoners, and doesn't like Corsairs either.

So, it would be three houses on 1.7, by the looks of things, if that's the route taken.

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[Doc Holliday]

Can we retcon Zoners back to what they were in vanilla? You know, squatters and such staying out the way, not an empire with a fleet?

Then people need to stop pushing.....and pushing hard at that. It is those people who are forcing us to take such measures. You want a reason why, look in the mirror.

Thinking about possible long-range goals, it seems to me that Bretonia is trying to isolate the Zoners in order to swoop in and nab a replacement for Harris.

We know about it. Maybe not as a replacement for Harris but a place to relocate some of their own due to overpopulation. Zoners also haven't forgot what happened to Erie which was taken over by Liberty hence in the vanilla version why you find Corsair patrols in O49.....to keep possible invaders out.

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[bluntpencil2001]

Then people need to stop pushing.....and pushing hard at that. It is those people who are forcing us to take such measures. You want a reason why, look in the mirror.
We know about it. Maybe not as a replacement for Harris but a place to relocate some of their own due to overpopulation. Zoners also haven't forgot what happened to Erie which was taken over by Liberty hence in the vanilla version why you find Corsair patrols in O49.....to keep possible invaders out.

Omega 49 isn't in vanilla. It was added in Disco.

The problem with it is that it makes Zoners something they aren't, and the Corsair presence only encourages attacks.

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[Ark]

This whole sector is spiraling into madness!

[Magoo!]

Alright, I left for two hours and came back to... Well, four or five extra pages still arguing about the semantics and the general whatnot of the Zoners 'harboring' the Corsairs.

Can we please get back to the yellow brick road?

Either way:
There are Corsair civilians on GC.
There are Corsair soldiers on GC.

One party is angry that the other committed "genocide" and said party is wanting to commit genocide in return.

By one party's logic, "They, as a nation, declared war, etc. etc." in addition to this party's logic, "They committed genocide!"

Yet as a nation, Bretonia took on a state of war (theoretically on the defense) and thus having established a two-way war, and not any boundaries, the Corsairs were probably well within their right to deal such a blow.

But the fact of the matter is we're putting guesswork A vs. Guess work B.

"Oh, yes, well I think... Judging by rumors... And its known by the news that..."

The media lies. People lie. Nobody really knows anything.

Can we please get back to solving the issue with the Zoners and the other people? Unless of course all this senseless debate has led to an ease in tensions, in which case I'll leave this thread to die as my brainchild will no longer bear fruit.

-Edit- I realize some people may not have argued this and indeed made a suggestion, so if somebody can point me towards everybody who did and approximately what page, I'll be happy to add them to the list.

[Linkus]

VERY simple solution:

Bounty stays.
Zoners deal with it.


I mean, give me a few good reasons why a bounty on Zoners is bad?
Remembering that the Corsairs, BH and nearly everyone who uses the Freeports will defend the Zoners, along with their massive fleet of warships.

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[bluntpencil2001]

Alright, I left for two hours and came back to... Well, four or five extra pages still arguing about the semantics and the general whatnot of the Zoners 'harboring' the Corsairs.

Can we please get back to the yellow brick road?

Either way:
There are Corsair civilians on GC.
There are Corsair soldiers on GC.

One party is angry that the other committed "genocide" and said party is wanting to commit genocide in return.

By one party's logic, "They, as a nation, declared war, etc. etc." in addition to this party's logic, "They committed genocide!"

Yet as a nation, Bretonia took on a state of war (theoretically on the defense) and thus having established a two-way war, and not any boundaries, the Corsairs were probably well within their right to deal such a blow.

But the fact of the matter is we're putting guesswork A vs. Guess work B.

"Oh, yes, well I think... Judging by rumors... And its known by the news that..."

The media lies. People lie. Nobody really knows anything.

Can we please get back to solving the issue with the Zoners and the other people? Unless of course all this senseless debate has led to an ease in tensions, in which case I'll leave this thread to die as my brainchild will no longer bear fruit.

The Bretonians never claimed to want to commit genocide. They just want the Corsairs to go away. They'd prefer they stood trial, but going away would do. Regardless, I can't see anyone saying 'they were within their rights to wipe out a planet'. That's cold, that. Heh.

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[DAnvilFan]

Giving them beds is near enough as bad. If Al Qaeda were allowed to stay in hotels in Zurich, but weren't allowed to make bombs there, there would still be hell to pay.

Also, the whole point of the Corsairs being there was so GC had a military presence.

:(Admins shut the bounty because Zoners cried their little eyes out. Victory via ooRP! WHOOOOO! Maintaining neutrality by crying to the powers that be.

Don't worry, we'll use Omega 49 to pirate in.

Try to keep your comments less childish if you want people not tell you stuff like, "you're the joke, sir."
Feel free to pirate in O-49 as much as you want. Just get in line with the Corsairs.

Now explain me something if you will. Planet Cork is a Molly planet no? QCP, which was a BAF division, hates Mollys does it not? I'm looking at the wiki here for confirmation. Both of your characters seem to focus on this Corsair issue while the Mollys are marked as terrorists by BFA.

[farmerman]

Can we please get back to solving the issue with the Zoners and the other people? Unless of course all this senseless debate has led to an ease in tensions, in which case I'll leave this thread to die as my brainchild will no longer bear fruit.

-Edit- I realize some people may not have argued this and indeed made a suggestion, so if somebody can point me towards everybody who did and approximately what page, I'll be happy to add them to the list.

I had previously made a suggestion based on canon - Zoners ask Corsairs to no longer base there but continue to supply them. Corsairs then build a base in one of the ice clouds. Post #43 on page 5 or so.

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[DeathsOverture]

Changing the history of Cork now would be just silly.
You would be wiping away parts of history and things that people have built their RP on.

It was also bombed as an excuse to not give the Mollys a planet of their own (Like guard systems, none have landable planets, yet) and also to push for more hostility to Corsairs.

How solid is this history? All I can find is this:

Planet Cork was once the home of Mollys. In 802 A.S., an invading Corsair fleet bombed the planet with thermonuclear bombs. All Mollys who did not escape from the planet were killed either by heat or by radiation. With its surface uninhabitable for at least 400 years from now due to harsh radiation, Cork became a monument and reminder to the Mollys who their true enemies are.

I just checked over Mull, Lisburn, Aranmore, and the four guard stations for news and rumors, and found no information about Planet Cork. I looked at the station orbiting Planet Cork, (Kilrea Orbital Station) and it has no infocard. Both of the abandoned stations have beacons next to them that tell the history of their respective station, but divulge no further information about "Planet Cork."

The Gaians would be openly hostile to Corsairs if they decimated a planet. Major diplomacy changes between the two parties need to happen, or "history" needs to change.

Image of Planet Cork

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