Zoner RP Solutions

[Magoo!]

The threat you perceive is entirely of your own making.

We do not condone the launching of attacks from our stations. If anything, we punish it. Why? Because it threatens everything we stand for.

New page.

-Edit- Arrogance aside, Blunt, I've offered all the counters I have. Talking to you is like shouting at a tree to stop growing. You're of one opinion that clearly wont budge, and my infallible logic still wont stop photosynthesis.

-Double Edit to Linkus Below- Well, this ends my argument with Blunt at the moment, and since nobody else is offering any great, immovable opinions and the constant droning of a broken record, I expect activity to slow.

[Linkus]

Quit with the flames people.
They aren't needed really.

Also a small thing, can we try fit our overall arguments into as small a number of posts as possible? Don't mean it in a bad way, just there have been page after page of small responses that aren't needed if people would just look at their own statements and respond in advance to any foreseen issues with them, I try to do it and it does work wonders.

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[n00bl3t]

Quit with the flames people.
They aren't needed really.

Also a small thing, can we try fit our overall arguments into as small a number of posts as possible? Don't mean it in a bad way, just there have been page after page of small responses that aren't needed if people would just look at their own statements and respond in advance to any foreseen issues with them, I try to do it and it does work wonders.

In short, the motion put forward by this thread, at it's core, is "+1".

(Or it is now.)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Blodo]

Assuming Zoners are just one hotel in one place without the power to defend itself if need be and a hypothetical hotel that only reacted not in defence of it's interest's and property, then yes.

The bigger a superpower you are, the more attention you attract. Neutrality becomes a myth then and you need to choose between it and overall power. It's just human nature, if you fly your massive juggernauts and threaten people who don't comply with your laws, then you will have people who will hate you for it. Because at this point you are exactly like one of the Sirius houses, and entities that large and wealthy attract pirates and other factions that are either jealous or have a genuine cause.

[n00bl3t]

The bigger a superpower you are, the more attention you attract. Neutrality becomes a myth then and you need to choose between it and overall power. It's just human nature, if you fly your massive juggernauts and threaten people who don't comply with your laws, then you will have people who will hate you for it. Because at this point you are exactly like one of the Sirius houses, and entities that large and wealthy attract pirates and other factions that are either jealous or have a genuine cause.

Feel free to come in. We deal with everyone. Regardless of what you have done, as long as it is not against us.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Magoo!]

Feel free to come in. We deal with everyone. Regardless of what you have done, as long as it is not against us.

(Since I can see this going the way of Flood at the moment)

He speaks truth. We only want to prosper and all laws we pass are voted upon by each member of our (the Zoner) community. We only want to prosper, and we only threaten you with floating colonies (?) if you threaten our prosperity.

Join us, B.

-Edit- *whisper* Coming in, shooting our friends within our NFZ, and then blowing some of us up is threatening our prosperity. Hence "The threat [from us] that you perceive is entirely of your own making".

[Blodo]

Yes, so you respond by threatening an entire house over a bunch of pirates. That is premiere diplomacy right there, I can see how you remained neutral all these years.

Seriously, zoners can't possibly be neutral while threatening factions with brute force, what is so hard to understand here?

[farmerman]

I'm still confused. The last time something similar happened, didn't the Zoners cave and ask the Unioners to leave? How is this different - a House is pressuring the Zoners, yes?

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[n00bl3t]

Yes, so you respond by threatening an entire house over a bunch of pirates. That is premiere diplomacy right there, I can see how you remained neutral all these years.

Seriously, zoners can't possibly be neutral while threatening factions with brute force, what is so hard to understand here?

Yes, we did. We would have preferred to threaten them with resource cutoffs and embargoes, however, direct force, or the threat of it was the best option.

We threatened them after a perceived attack on us.


The rumour on Freeport 2 was at a Zoner request, not a demand Brad.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Tenshu]

Ok, I have a completely different standing to this now. After looking at all the arguments it just seems as eternal as the changing tides so I am going to give my final piece on it.

I suggest that we all just let the QCP go ahead with their little RP, We will continue to stay the same, which is what most people really want. It was ok and fun the way it was so why change? QCP want to attack Zoners then thats their right as long as they keep it to RP and not pvpwhoring.

Let them whorse their little voices over corsairs in GC until everyone just decides to ignore them. Because no one really had a real reason to hate Zoners in the first place and that will never change no matter how much they might want that.

We all have a fair idea what happens to minority RP choices that go against the community anyway.

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