Order / Corsair alliance

[KeNoB]

And yes, removing the RP past would make no sense. Especially when the TBH flagship during the RM/TBH war was the Altaneria, an Osiris. Before we had our own Dreadnought. And even if we had our own one at the time, after realising the impracticalities of using it in anything but a defensive role, we probably would've still used the Osiris.

Same for Benitez, our flagship Talos is our only BS, one of the first Corsair-built Osiris Class Battleships

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Mateo Benitez,
Consul of the Benitez Familly

[Tovig]

=> Every time Order need helps, corsairs wing go there, even until O minor.
=> Every time gamma is attacked Order are here to help.

It's -very- rare.

[TYHPilot]

I see more order ships hang around gamma than I do see corsairs flying out to Omicron Minor

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Black|Sails

Kishiro Technologies

[DarthCloakedGuy]

What I don't understand is why the Order lets Corsairs fly around with their precious Osirises. Not only are those nearly the pinnacle of human ships powered by stolen Nomad technology, but they're also a very identifiable Order ship--

--and if a Corsair goes and causes trouble in it, guess who gets the blame.

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[Zelot]

What I don't understand is why the Order lets Corsairs fly around with their precious Osirises. Not only are those nearly the pinnacle of human ships powered by stolen Nomad technology, but they're also a very identifiable Order ship--

--and if a Corsair goes and causes trouble in it, guess who gets the blame.

Not really, the Order started as small group, without any infrastructure for operations, or ship building. If they wanted to build those Osirises they needed a partner to build them, the allies they had at the time, the dragons and bund, did not have the resources or facilities to build the Order equipment for them, add that to the Corsairs being the only real power in proximity to the Minor, you start to see why the Order might have been interested in a alliance with the Corsairs. To say it didnt make sense is bull, it did make sense, we may have outgrown it, but at the time, it was an important step in developing the Order in rp into the faction it is today.

I would just like to make clear here, The Osiris is both a Corsair and an Order ship. The Brotherhood shipyards in O-91 build the Osiris, and the Osiris was produced by the Corsairs before it was ever produced by the Order. The Admin notice you posted does not deal with the Osiris.

Hopefully you all can understand my grammer, but I suspect you understood what Grimly and Karol's said, you just want to try and speak down to them.

Learn to read please.

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[Red_Bull]

Honestly the current alliance with the Corsairs and Hogosha just doesn't make really any sense. It hurts our reputation to be allied with the Corsairs because what are people going to think if one of our allies are a group of pirates. Doesn't leave much room for us to expand our relations with any other factions. Now for Hogosha when this appeared on my ID all I had to say is "What the hell?". There's really no reason for our relations with them, it just kind of popped onto our ID's over night. I would like to see our relations personally be what Tenacity suggested just because it makes more sense. I think the Corsairs and Hogosha should just be neutral to us though.

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[... kur nubėgo?]

And as far as I know, we don't need a forum bio/story to -buy- a ship that we -make-...

Special RP request > Bio story

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Omega Pirates Guild

History of OPG | Antonio "Vilkas" Devivar

[sean24]

I like the whole current alliance between the Corsairs and Order.

If they broke up, the outcast side would absoulutly destroy them. The Corsairs need all the help they can get against the blood dragons, hessians, coalition, outcasts, LWB, Mollys, Unioners, and pretty much every single other faction in sirius apart from the gaians.

[... kur nubėgo?]

I like the whole current alliance between the Corsairs and Order.

If they broke up, the outcast side would absoulutly destroy them. The Corsairs need all the help they can get against the blood dragons, hessians, coalition, outcasts, LWB, Mollys, Unioners, and pretty much every single other faction in sirius apart from the gaians.

Only Hessians and outcasts threats Corsairs. In the other fronts, Corsairs are the aggressors. Oh some skirmished with bh, but they are not in major conflict with BHG core. Well corsairs may work with order sometimes to kill common enemy, buts this is not enought reason for long term relationship.

Corsairs are far from Uniors interests.
Corsairs are far from LWB interests.
Corsairs are not primary concern of the boold dragons, of course they try to push them off from Kusari as well as hogosha but not more.
Corsairs molly conflict is a bit more aggresive, but Mollies are standing on defensive. Not opposite. Since Corsairs are trying to anhilate them and to claim bretonias space for themselves.

And so on.

So as I stated only 2 fronts (and Order do not participate in both of these). Hessian and outcast. + BHG core possible threat.

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Omega Pirates Guild

History of OPG | Antonio "Vilkas" Devivar

[Elven]

The Corsairs need all the help they can get against the blood dragons, hessians, coalition, outcasts, LWB, Mollys, Unioners, and pretty much every single other faction in sirius apart from the gaians.

Order helps only in expansion to Omicrons and fighting off Nomads and BHG. But still, even such help is greeted.

current alliance with the Corsairs and Hogosha just doesn't make really any sense.

It's needed to save Crete, Hogosha are making huge money on artifacts and food.
That saves Crete from hunger, Farmers Alliance from economic losses and gives Hogosha money to spent it on bribes and pink Chimaeras.

Corsairs are far from Uniors interests.

Not really, Unioners were intrested in Artifact trade, but due to small 'presents' send by otucasts, unioners ceased alliance. Corsairs were intrested to strike Hessians' back. That would be nice alliance.

primary concern of the boold dragons

It's well-known that Corsairs are linked with Kusari goverment. So, destroying Corsairs is in interests of Dragons. Also, Dragons don't like Artifact trade, gajins and pirates. Dragons are patriots.

No sense for Order to cease this alliance. Corsairs and Order are linked for very long time.