Liners need speed, not cargo space

[Dab]

Now since I just moved, and haven't been able to get on for 2 days, I can't read this ENTIRE thing (especially because my family is celebrating Thanksgiving today, as we couldn't yesterday.)

From what I've seen, Morrigan thinks Liners need to lose their cargo and get speed. First of all, I have to ask, WHY THE MAJOR NERF GUYS? Liners JUST lost their level 8 guns, and a chunk of power capacity. To compensate, they got more cargo.

Now, the Luxury and Prison Liners are bigger than the Large Train. The only ship I think is bigger, is the Adv. Train (not even sure, as I haven't seen the Adv. T). And right now, that Adv. Train is the only thing with larger cargo. Size relation with cargo fits in the case doesn't it?

Right now, the Container Transport has more firepower than the Luxury Liner has, and is harder to hit. So the Liner doesn't have too much firepower for its carrying capacity either.

About the speed; Do you see anything larger than a FREIGHTER with 200 speed with thruster on? Cruisers, which are about 1/2 the size of a liner, have the 135 thruster speed. So why would a liner that is twice as big, have a FASTER speed, when most have smaller engines, and theirs are not military-quality either?

Now to some looks as to what things influenced the liner's creation. The American President's convoy. Usually consists of 4 guys on motorcycles, and then 2 cars, with the Limo. Now that Limo, that is the Luxury Liner in this case. It has some very nice luxury in it.
But its also bullet-proof, and can keep the president alive and safe from the explosion of a rocket launcher. Now this car is NOT fast. Not at all. Its heavy, its slow, but it can take alot of punishment.
Thats what the luxury liner should be like. Very nice in the inside, but strong enough to survive an attack through its amount of armor. It should also be very slow.

Now the comparison for the Prison Liner. It transports hardened criminals who's friends are going to try freeing. In real life, prisoners are transported in big buses, that are armored and slow. When they are flown, they are usually on a huge plane that looks like a cargo-carrying plane. Its got very thick hull and is DEFINITELY slow. It goes like a whopping 350 mph compared to a fighter jet's top speed of 1150 mph. Commercial planes go about 650 mph. Now which is slower, and by how much?

Now I have seen we are on the subject of prices.. I don't really see where you have room to argue. Cruisers went something like 60 to 100 million credits. Thats 1.6x increase in price from original. Luxury Liners went from 25 million to 114 million Thats almost 5x increase in price.

Now lets compare the Large Train. Large Train costs 80 million. Thats 70% of the Liner's cost. Now the cargo. Large Train has 4500 cargo. Luxury liner has 4600. Thats a whole whopping 100 cargo increase. So effectively, 100 cargo and 5 more turret points (and keep in mind, these are nearly worthless level 7 turrets) costs the liner 34 million credits. Now which one is cheaper for its cargo capacity?

17,777 credits per cargo unit on a large train.
24,782 credits per cargo unit on a luxury liner.

Which is the one that is cheap for its cargo?

Now, its true that the liner has more armor and firepower. IT DOES NOT HAVE MORE SHIELDING. It lost its level 8 shield slot when it lost its level 8 turrets.

So that little bit of armor, and useless firepower, makes it so much better than the Large and Adv. Train? I dare to ask how. Its armor lasts about 1-3 minutes longer, which is nearly useless. But the Liner is also LARGER than the L/Adv. Trains, easier to hit, and just as slow, and horrible with Trade Lanes. How does the firepower, 100 cargo, and armor advantage make up for a large size, horrible trade lane access, and 34 million credits?

And the luxury liner being difficult to pirate with a fighter? Do you know how many pirates come after me? Unless I found a slow gunboat (and this was with Gunboat shield and weapons) I was a dead man. It took all my skill in piloting and in getting away just to avoid having to pay 50% of the time. The other 50% I was taken an inch into my life and forced to pay. This is with GB weaps and shields. Almost always this was done by a fighter. I had a better chance against GBs because they were also slow, had slightly less pure firepower and armor (though this is now the opposite) and weren't good at disrupters. A liner is at the mercy of a fighter. And I've beaten two prison liners with a single STOCK Rheinland Gunboat (it has a crap FWD gun) and still had half my bots left. You can ask Nexus, it was two of his SU that got it. And this was when they had GB shields and guns, which they no longer have.

Furthermore, how can you argue and complain about a ship you've never flown, never want to fly, never would do any RP connected to it, or even testing it beyond looking at numbers, which don't show everything. I've had my RP Liner for about a year now. I've played it for a LONG time. I know whether its weak and easily pirated or not from the perspective of the liner, not from the pirate. Just because you might not be great a pirating doesn't mean liners should be nerfed. I've encountered PLENTY of pirates good enough to force me to pay. Now to mention that the new CDs can disrupt me even after I've gotten into cruise.

So I ask; How is it better than the Adv. Train or Large Train? How is it too strong? How would giving it MORE speed would make it weaker instead of even better against the pirates that say they already have enough trouble fighting it in combat?

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