So, bases

[Thyrzul]

@Thyrzul

Again you're missing key points.

POBs were introduced into discovery so the devs wouldn't have to do it all, and don't talk to me about responsibility, if that were the case we'd also be having to make battleships SRP only or remove them completely, because just like bases, people don't care about what they do with them.

And that is the issue with the whole, without taking responsibility for your actions, you can pretty much screw up anybody's fun and get away with it. At least battleships are regulated through the server rules.

As for the RP, well, you see, -you- do NOT decide how the ZA roleplays, -no one- except for the ZA does. Yes, anyone can make a history of how they're actually a house and all of that, or having infinite resources or superior resources or whatever the hell, that's not up to anyone but the players deciding to do it. They don't have to care. But neither do you, they can say they're a house (just an example) and you can say "not really", but it won't matter, everyone does what they want.

There are rules, written and unwritten alike what ensures quality roleplay and fairness, and ZA are not exception of these rules. For example, they can't decide to suddenly overrun Rheinland and take over it, that is powergaming. They also can't act like Xenos when they use Zoner ID. Yes, in that case the ID decides how ZA roleplays. That the Admins let ZA declare war on other Zoners is just sad.

Thing is though, they DO have the manpower and resources to do all of it..because..they just did? That's not power gaming, that's just gaming. They didn't force anyone to do anything, nor did they force lore or anything of the sort, they just used their resources to build platforms, they can do that, you can do it too if you had the manpower and the active playerbase.

Didn't force anyone to do anything? They locked down Omicron-74. Twice! The powergaming in the whole is that they are showing off might they lack inRP.

Forum Lore is not above ingame roleplay and/or actions, that's something that people seem to be mixing up nowadays.

Oh, sure, and suddenly in-game mechanics became a deciding factor in major RP stuff, right? How come their boarding attempts got shot down then?

Yeah, that's how life kinda works? Kusari said "these systems are mind", didn't stop Gallia from running them over, see how you need to defend your territory? Same goes for Bretonia.

Gallia ran over them because the devs developed the story this way, not because a bunch of capwhores suddenly rampaged in and killed the KNF. Lore doesn't evolve through minor in-game actions.

Then who does? It's a public system, and the admins do not care. If the ZA has the power to lock it down, then they can. I can make a base in Baffin as an outcast if I wanted to and set it so that it shot everything, Outcasts don't have to care about what the TAZ thinks, they can just invade in, that justifies that I can do that. Again, I'm just using TAZ/Baffin as an example. And when I do make a base, they'll just come by and shoot it down before I can do much, and thus, they defend their system, because they can.

If anybody have authority over the system inRP, then that's the Phoenix, because Admins at least cared enough to grant them officialdom. Lore doesn't evolve by flexing in-game muscles, it mostly evolves through rp consensus, and while I say mostly, I currently know no exceptions.

Really? Well, where were they when the ZA was building those stations then? That amount of core4 stations don't just come out of nowhere overnight. Their fault, not the ZAs.

ZA posed no threat back when building those bases. Would you have foretold they will abuse their bases before they did anything?

You call of this powergaming, but I think you should look up on what powergaming is. They're not forcing anyone to do anything, they're just using their superior manpower.

Superior manpower they posess in-game, but not inRP, and use it to tell Order basically to "fck off", while everyday's zoner should piss his pants if an order agent looks at him bad. They hold power which is yet to be justified inRP, and inRP nothing backs up their actions, attitude towards their surroundings, and the general manner they address their adversaries. It just contradicts with the concept of a Zoner.

And as for a healthy balance of fairplay(gameplay) and roleplay? I think that balance has been screwed over waaaaay before all of this happened, it's been more of a "FAIRPLAY FAIRPLAY FAIRPLAY, OMG YOU CANT DO THAT IT'S NOT FAIR, FAIRPLAY!!!!!" rather than roleplay, there hasn't been a balance for years.

Means we can screw this system up further more, right?

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