Ok... while not being a PVP person in anyway so i know nothing about ship loadouts and weapon effectiveness... i did want to comment on this thread. I have noticed that for as long as i have been here it has seem to have been the accepted norm amongst everyone that civilian weapons were useable for all.
As an admin, Hoodlum has the prerogative of ruling on this, fair enough.
But i would say that these weapons rules are so vague and open to interpretation and or whim that this could have possibly been settled without a sanction, rather a thread or pm. And i think this ruling might leave a lot of players open to sanction right now, and not just corsairs, if people are using RP like alliances or deals or friendships to get their hands on things.
However
The TBH players have AMPLE Role play reasons to be able to procure civilian weapons, and i can find these reasons in the faction info threads which themselves are ADMIN APPROVED:
Examples:
FROM SCRA FACTION POST
Weapons allowed are as follows: Civilian/Zoner, Nomads (max. 2 per ship), CODENAMEs, Xenos and IMG (limited use). We also have a stockpile of Corsair arms from a previous arms deal. Contact Miroslav Baranova or Ares for access, do not fetch Corsair guns from Corsair bases.
Is it not equally conceivable then that the TBH could have left over civilian weapons from this same deal? how long have they been mounting these weapons? How are the SCRA obtaining them now if they are still using them - ie, how long does a stockpile last? Is this Role play reason any more of a stretch than something the TBH can come up with?
FROM FARMERS ALLIANCE FACTION POST:
Approved Weapons: All FA, Hogosha, Gaian, Civilian are approved. Arms Deal: TBH
Where do they get them from? From a Corsairs point of view, it really doesn't matter where the farmers alliance gets them from, but that they can get them from the farmers alliance. Dabs point before about buying from "allies who buy from allies" here is relevant, however, it can still be explained.
FROM CR FACTION LIST:
1. All IMG weapons
2. Corsair shield busters
3. Codename weapons
4. Nomad weapons - limited
5. Civilian and zoner weapons
6. BHG weapons - limited
7. Any missile or torpedo
8. Mini razor
Again, possible to procure through an ally - and prior to this sanction no one would have questioned that i think.
The point is, if the players can Role play, and reasonably Role play a way of procuring these weapons, which are civilian weapons and so not like Outcast specialized weapons or antyhing else, but weapons available from many different bases which, granted the corsairs can't land on but their allies can... and if its done in Role play..... whats the issue?
FROM THE 101ST ALLOWED WEAPONS ON FACTION THREAD:
Weapons Dictated by Individual Roleplay
My point is, its allowed, Admins have approved this as a method of getting weapons.
Basically, the rules concerning weapons need to be much more black and white in the next mod, this is WAY too ambiguous.
