(10-25-2016, 07:05 AM)Mercarryn Wrote: Alley is right, Jack. Only going for one type of Area-denial-bases is one-sided and shows quite well your intention "behind the scenes" so to speak, namely
just trying to get rid of Reutlingen somehow while keeping the benefits from Aland denying pirates a nice piracy spot.
Go for all types of areal denial POBs or keep it as it is. Otherwise this petition is just poor form, because the siege recently failed.
What a wonderful way to start the day, with a good laugh. If you're pirating in front of an NPC base I suggest you dock on it, press F1, delete the character and never make piracy-related ships again. NPC bases aren't even the topic of discussion, and if we go by that logic might as well move all bases that ever get in the way of anyone.
Technically, all POBs can be considered "area denial bases", regardless of the location - as an example you can construct one 100k above the plane in Magellan in A1 sector and although it's in the middle of nowhere, it still technically "denies" that small area around it. It's the area itself that matters, and mining fields + jumpholes/jumpgates should never have any of them near. The former kills of any miner-trader activity before it even had a chance to begin, and the latter is problematic because of ships jumping in being stuck in the cutscene while the base is already shooting them, resulting in inevitable instakills or loss of repairs.
Sure, there are "ways" around it which are extremely ineffective and should never be a mandatory for players such as /stuck macro, not to mention it's technically considered cheating, or the famous Reutligen-lovers argument "just use a cloak and cd the base" even though there are 15 weapon platforms with battleship weapons around it. Mining field and hole/gate POBs should've never existed in the first place, and if you're trying to defend the argument that they should stay you're either a "proud" owner of one or are absolutely clueless about how the game works.
(10-25-2016, 06:20 AM)Alley Wrote:
(10-24-2016, 11:35 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: We think that area denial bases and hole/gate blocking bases should not have a place in today's Disco any more.
I could get behind this if this petition also prevent POBs from being within 15k of any NPC base.
These are as harmful as mining field POBs.
Although I personally wouldn't mind such a change, I don't think it's necessary. However, calling them as harmful as mining field or gate/hole POBs is silly for the reasons stated above. POBs around NPC bases do nothing but make you waste 30 more seconds by cruising around them which is a minor drawback compared to the problematic POBs.