(04-07-2018, 01:33 PM)Antonio Wrote: If you mean the beginning of transition when the ships get their hull changed but keep the nanobots until they die or dock, I doubt it'd be an issue. Battleships and battlecruisers received the same treatment, and keeping nanobots on them has an incomparably higher impact on fights. Seeing as their transition went smoothly and those who decided to abuse this exploit mostly got their ships deleted, there's little to worry about.
I mean when people first buy a battleship when they had a cruiser, and the remaining nanos are transferred to the BS. That can happen at any time, and someone who doesnt know about the no-nano use on BS policy is bound to use them, and by the look of things get sanctioned. I worry about that because it happened to me twice when I upgraded to an Osiris and to a Neph, and I only noticed I couldnt buy new nanos when I used up the ones I had from the previous cap. Shortly afterwards I saw a guy get his cap deleted for using nanos, and I guess it could have happened to me too if I had used them in PvP instead of PvE. So yeah... I worry that the same thing is likely to happen to others, because it happened to me two times without me knowing it was an offense. (EDIT: At least that's my interpretation of what happened because I don't know when exactly the change was made by devs and it was some months ago. Could be I'm mistaken)
That being said, I still don't know what the point of the no-nanos on BS policy is at all, since nanos cant be transferred during pvp anymore.
(04-07-2018, 01:33 PM)Antonio Wrote: SNAC only instakills people who don't have an AU8, and frankly those ships deserve to die. The risk of not having an armor upgrade is high chance of getting instakiled, it's as simple as that. If you ask most armorless transports why they didn't buy an armor upgrade, they'll say it's because it takes up cargo space. They know they'd like to have one, but they don't want to lose profit on it. The problem is obviously that an AU8 takes up only 25 cargo space so if it saves you once in 200 trips on a 5ker it's worth the purchase. A new player doesn't see this and just looks at max profit, immediately. They accept that risk and are aware of it, but decide to roll with it anyways.
Removing armor can also make the difference between having to make 3 trips instead of 2 when you need exactly 10000 to build something. I'm less worried about transports than about snubs though.
(04-07-2018, 01:33 PM)Antonio Wrote: Second, if you reduced SNAC damage and increased refire rate to appeal to transports you mess with balance of all classes. As a weapon that interacts with everything to an extent, changing it to shoot more often with less damage and energy would give more instakill opprtunities against snubs. We don't need more, we need less opportunities given to bombers to SNAC a snub. It'd also mean that the "peeps-in-charge who enjoy insta-killing unsuspecting noobs" (I'll assume this is directed at me) get to do it more often, which contradicts your whole point. It'd also be a nerf against caps because having to shoot it more often means you're exposed to danger more often. And finally, changing such a high impact weapon when looking at interactions between classes to appeal for transports of all classes is ridiculous.
Concerning the snac, the intention was to reduce their damage below the amount needed to instakill a snub, and raise refire rate accordingly. Raising base armor and reducing number of nanos can be part of that. "The peeps in charge who enjoy insta-killing unsuspecting noobs" referred to other people who bragged about it and later ended up as balance devs. I don't recall you being one of those I was thinking of, but who it was is besides the point. The point is that somewhat "bold" dev moves that would fix certain problems but upset people who love to have a disproportionate PvP advantage over noobs aren't being made because of fear of the later, and it's been like that for ever. Instead there'e constant squabbling about small insignificant changes like removing nanos from BS even if they cant pass bots anyway anymore, and even if there are negative consequences like "cheating" without knowing it.
