Allowed/Recommended ID/Ship list (New Version)

[mjolnir]

ID/Ship list:

<strike>1) Community answers the questions above and adds comments</strike> - done here:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...=18326&st=0

<strike>2) I make the first version of the list</strike> - done

<strike>3) Community argues about the list and I change it accordingly - this will last some time and might get tricky, as of now I give this at least a week, more probably two weeks.</strike>

4) Admins review the list and change it if they don't like something


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NOTE: List in the attachment (end of post)
I recommend that you use the .xls version since the .pdf is a bit of an afterthought right now.

Ships are divided into 3 categories

1. Green - use for best RP, should be the only ones used by official factions and independents (without additional explanation)

2. Yellow - Allowed to use with some RP reasons

3. Red - Should not use unless very good RP reasons are provided, can get you sanctioned



My decision criteria

1) Infocard
2) Selling locations + what NPCs fly
3) Nature of the faction/ID - ex.: Junkers won't fly Luxury Liner

Note: This chart doesn't take into account current bugs/problems with some ships.


Some main points

1 Millitary ships are put as Red to both civilians, freelancers and BHG

2. BHG ships are red to all except Freelancers, Mercs and Zoners

3. Pirate ships are yellow to Mercs/FLs, except some "guarded" ones, like Blood Dragon HF

4. Civilian ships are mostly yellow to pirates, depending on the pirate faction history/style - so some are ok


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I need your help to go trough the chart and post what you thing is wrong and why you think so.

Before you post go trough the following:

1) Read the ship infocard and find it's selling location.
2) Check what other factions can use it
3) Check what other ships can your faction use.
4) Check the faction diplomacy
5) Remember that there might be many mistakes made by me simply due to the sheer size of the chart. So point them out without looking for some conspiracy.


Please try to structure your answers so that it's easy to read them!!!!


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Known issues and corrections - updated repeatedly, last 14.7.

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Here follows some explaining about some "contested" ships, main list is in the attachment

Most of those ships are so "contested" that it will come to admin decision on the final list.

LFs

Arrow

[color=#FFCC33]Yellow - corporations outside Liberty/Bretonian, Liberty pirates

Civilian made ship, Liberty Pirates can easily get one

Tigershark

Green Rheinland and Kusari corporations
Yellow Liberty and Bretonian corp., most RH pirate factions and factions with access to Omegas
Red Xenos, BD - nothing with Rheinland and far away from selling spot

Civilian made in Rheinland, "available for civilians in Border Worlds", relatively expensive

VHFs

Avenger + Raven Claw

Green - LSF
Yellow - LPI, LN, Military, Kishiro for Raven Claw
Red - everyone else

Avenger:
"Top secret development by LSF, only very few exists", so not the ship Navy would use for daily missions.

Raven Claw:
"Severak copies were build in Liberty, LSF used them for covert missions..."

Blood Dragon

Green - BDs, Phantoms
Yellow - GC, Outcasts, Pirate
Red - everyone else

"Dragons conceal the design of the ship even from their pirate brethren", + GC NPCs fly the civilian line of ships

Bombers

Falcata

Green - all BW-line users since it says "Borderworlds bomber... recent development by the outcasts".

Havoc MKII

Green - factions listed on infocard, Bretonian and Liberty corporations
Yellow - other house corporations, Liberty Pirates
Red - non Liberty Pirates

"Ageira bomber..... While Ageira intially planned to sell it only to LN and BAF, the company executives soon found it could make a lot of profit on alternative markets"

Hence Liberty Pirates could get a hold off it just like with the Arrow, but yes maybe this one should be a bit more restricted than Arrow. Open for discussion.

Taiidan Bomber

"Build by GMG", sold in Omicron Delta on a Zoner base

Green + Yellow - most corporations
Red:
- Kusari pirates since: BDs - can not be openly supplied by GMG, FA - are "unfriendly to GMG", Hogosha are hostile,
- RH pirates - hostile to GMG (Bundschuh on the infocard, others are allied with them.. and have nothing to do in Delta)
- Bretonian and Liberty Pirates - far from GMG or Delta, some hostile to them as well
- Corsairs - hostile to GMG
- Outcasts - hostile to GMG

Transports

Huge corporate ones - Adv. Train, Heavy Tankers....

Yellow - Trader ID
Red - all pirate factions

Pirate transport, pirate train and BW transport are there for a reason.

Container Transp.

Red - Bretonian Companies - "build in Kusari"

Luxury Liner
Green - OSC
Yellow - Trader, IC, Zoners, BHG?
Red - eveyone else

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