Unofficial factions in relation to official factions

[obnoxious1]

I'd like to ad a response & make it understood I am not flaming & have no intention of doing so, just trying to express a point of view. It may even end up as I am mistaken & will gracefully & humbly apologize if pointed out.

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The RoS being a military organisation within the Outcasts, this gives me (in rp) authority over others in outcast space... Not all people by any means. For instance, the 101st command, I take orders from them. Most are courtious enough to ask rather than demand, as the reapers do not fall under their direct command, however no matter what the tone, if a high ranking 101st member asks me to do something, I will on the whole do so as they hold the title of system owning faction and whether I like it or not (frequently don't wink.gif ) they have a certain degree of hegemony over my command.

As you stated, yours is a military group. Thus taking commands from a military structure & doing very well in the RP part of it as far as I have seen. But in relation to my 'un-official' factions role play, We are not part of the military. We do however have an agreement with the 101st in our role play & do abide by their orders per our agreement. Our group is a organized collection of Outcast pirates & assassins with an elected leader who all basically freelance out to contractors. Thus in our view in the role play scheme, would not take orders from anyone unless it was part of a contract agreement. We posted this as such in our introduction & again on various groups forums. We are, however, usually happy to oblige requests if asked to assist any friendly to our group. But making demands, ordering us around & trying strong arm tactics would more than likely be met with a sour response. In affect, it would be the same as a General walking into your civillian home & telling you to walk through a mine field. Your basically going to tell them where to go & how to get there.

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Unofficial factions I regard as being lowewr down the foodchain then offical factions. So, if as my RoS character (High ranking within both the outcasts as a whle and particularly the RoS) issues an order, then within roleplay it must at least be respected.

Being polite as I can.. This is a pompous statement & one would be lead to believe from that view that if your not an official faction, your a peon in the game & have no say in anything (Thats how I read it anyway)
Now I certainly respect the fact your group is an Officially Sanctioned Faction, but I seem to lose that respect after reading that. In role play, as well as in life, your earn respect, not demand it once you achieved some goal. As far as orders issued in role play, Again, this would have to also be inline with both groups story lines. It shouldn't matter whether a group is official or not as long as the role play fits with both groups story lines.
Elsewise, it would be utter chaos & no one would keep an interest in playing.

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I don't like to start characters as generals or people in a position of power. I prefer to earn that, through experience and commitment and service. Indies like Laowai for the corsairs have done this while remaining an indy, and I say thats awesome. However when I see (from any perspective not just the incident that caused this thread to start) unofficial factions, badmouthing and disrespecting official ones, who roleplay is approved by admin concencus, it makes me rather cross. Its something that I would never do.

I agree with you with the start up of a character idea, work your way up. I have done my time in lower character form from the day I started playing in discovery until I was elected by my peers in my group to the command position. I do not however understand where you get the idea your group was badmouthed? If it was from one of the members of our group Please by all means PM me with a screen shot of the text & I will deal with the person (most likely remove them from group). To my knowledge, the only thing said during any encounter was " Im tired of the ROS trying to give us orders" That group member was dealt with. Yet only expressed what most of us felt. Being told to do this & that & yet not being any part of the military as stated earlier to us seemed like being bullied by larger group because they have status.

I would have much rather have worked this out in pm's or as stated on your forums, in a closed form of communications, to try to smooth out any differences & work out a compromise. But open forums works as well & would give more input.

again.. my views of the situation & my 2 cents worth...

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