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My thoughts concerning factions/Indies and other such stuff.
Offline Laowai
06-25-2008, 05:56 AM,
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' Wrote:People RPing as heads of state merely add more depth to the whole game. Also, if there is a navy, then of course it has a chain of command, which results in commanding officers and heads of state. If you want to join some sort of military force, then you obviously want to be within such a chain of command. That's what militaries are all about. If you don't want that, then stay away from joining a military. It's that simple.



This missed the point somewhat and as i said in my post, skirts around what i believe the core issue is here, esp in regards to the RM, but by extension - the roles of other military factions as well.

The Players you're referring to, Indies as it is, might want to play as part of a military and even in a chain of command - but, they might NOT want to play in a faction. The issue here is that certain factions have declared that they ARE the chain of command for an NPC faction. period and there are no alternatives, (i discussed this in my previous post on about page 3 or 4, pls read:)) No where in the server rules does it say that A: a faction can do that and B: that a player must obey that decree to play as a part of that NPC faction.
Now no one is talking about scrapping RP, at worst whats being talked about is ammending it or allowing it to be flexible. Its all very well to RP the role of a head of state if all the players agree on it but at the end of the day, all of the players wont = simply because its impossible that they do, unless they join a faction and read its literature - this effectivly bars a non faction member from joining said faction and cleverly, either by design or by accident gives a group of players complete control over an entire NPC faction. Again, i believe this was not intended by the game developer (we could ask him) or in the spirit of the game.

I will use my Corsair indie as an example. He is fiercly independent, and intends to remain so, however, he does work with the main corsair factions and listens to their decrees etc, he reserves the right to act on his own consience where individual issues are concerned, and being a pirate he does have more leeway than a military pilot might - however while he may be a thorn in their side by not agreeing with what they say, no one can claim that he doesnt play as a Corsair should. Pertaining to the RM, there is no reason why an indie player cannot play a RM id'd character and still work with the existing RM faction - sure the "you must follow my orders" factor would be less, however, if they are truly Role playing a Rheinland military character the motivation behind the outcome of RP would have certain similarities.
I have always personally objected to any player RP'ing the role of a head of state, or an overlord of an entire NPC faction as i have always said - and have been proven right - that it would lead to precisely this form of conflict.

As i said in my previous post, this issue is less about Indies and Factions and more about who controls the server and the rules of the server as they currently stand (For more detail pls see my previous post)

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My thoughts concerning factions/Indies and other such stuff. - by Angelfire - 06-24-2008, 08:59 PM
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