My thoughts concerning factions/Indies and other such stuff.

[ScornStar]

I Say this Respectfully.

What most of you lose sight of is the fact that although we are RP'ing characters whilst we play, we are in fact 'playing'.

Most who sit behind their screens ambitiously smacking their keyboard to splash their sentiments on the small screen in front of them do not have the perspective nor the world view to make massive unilateral governmental decisions. And even if you were a diplomatic genius in parliamentary tactics and corporate strategies, your sentiments would simply fly over the heads of the noobs like me who just want fly around and kill stuff.

My point there is that debating at a government level is fun, but not very effective in resolution as we are not politicians, we are gamers.

As Gamers... thats how we should look at this whole debate.

As RP Gamers more specifically.



Perspective is everything! Your perception is determined by your perspective. Your perception defines your version of reality.

Approaching a debate like this with so many different perspectives is like 3 people wearing different colored lenses over their eyes, arguing about what color the wall actually is. All are right, but none are right... As gamers we need to done the lenses of 'maximum fun and stimulation'.

Chaos is the enemy of fun.

Why do I say this?

Well, it breeds conflict over small things because chaos is the default setting when there is no authority or accountability.

I have already stated that you can report untoward behavior to the Admins if the factions/faction leaders overstep their authority (as gamers) within the rules of Discovery. I seriously like most of the indies who are making their points here, but if you win this argument, all this mod will be is one big argument. We need clear leaders, rules and laws... to break these boundaries of security would be community suicide!

An official faction, which has gone through the processes required by the admins and community to be deemed official is not in fact 'self proclaimed'. They are the result of a very democratic process that takes place right here on these forums. Try posting a faction request if you really want to experience the harsh democracy of this community!

Once the request has been flamed and toasted by the community, rewritten once or twice, flamed and char grilled some more and finally Admin approved, it has certainly earned it's stripes to be an authoritative entity within this community.

If an Indy is willing to follow that same path to change policy then fair is fair, but I must say that many of you are not thinking past your own gratification as a gamer. You are fighting for something that will benefit you and one or two others but in truth you are planting seeds of discontent and disorder which will turn something beautiful to play into a pure pvp server.

Work with the system, earn it's stripes, use it as a friend and no egotistical faction leader will stand before you for you will have something far more powerful than a single gamer or an entire clan on your side... you will have the community (of gamers) backing your play.

@ Nooblet. - Your reactionary stance has tied my hands in coming to your defense or support. Not that my support means much but it is an example of using the system as opposed to fighting your fight alone.

I know I am always soap boxy when I speak, please forgive me for this, I am an incurable optimist!

We must also realize that some times we may want to discover and make choices on our own. Exspecially the new players. When you have the other people looking at it from the most fun perspective, we must also realize that they are only able to see fun as they understand it. In fact one persons fun maybe totally different than anothers here and both still enjoy RP. But inevitably when you role play authority and hand out edicts like "you cant use this and you can't use that or have this or fly that". AND as I understand it, since you suggest that the faction heads gain certain powers as "experienced players" to gover server rules.

No way, If that were in effect already the Harvesters would never have gotten past 04 and I would have been sanctioned off the server long ago. Restrictions equal deminished potential, deminshed potential equals less veriety, less veriety equals less to discover, less to discover equals less fun for the newer folk.

If we are more organized we should be able to counter the most impertainate Whore of any kind until a sanction hits them or have enough characters to occupy ourselves elsewhere.

We DO NOT NEED server police. If we have server police we should make sure that equal numbers faction members and indies(No faction).

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