My thoughts concerning factions/Indies and other such stuff.

[chovynz]

No faction leader will stand in your way? but that is exactly what is happening with the factions "requiring" certain measures of new and indie players before they are "permitted" to play how they choose. In Nooblets defence, while he may be arguing he does have a point - if he doesnt not break rules, nor overly disrupt the enjoyment and experience of faction and/or other players why, as a Role playing independant who obeys server rules should he have to obey a faction in game? This is not an argument for anarchy - rather one of equality of rule (RP and server) abiding individuals to enjoy the game without being told how they have to enjoy it by a faction.

Laowai, you are one of the few Indy supporters that I actually respect. Why?
Because I have seen you Role play. In my eyes you have earned whatever
you want to do, because you know how to role play, within the ideas and
ideologies of the NPC factions that you are in.

But one of the problems with what you are saying here (and I agree with most
of your posts by the way) is that certain independent Captial ship owners who
have no sense of Roleplay, are ruining other peoples Role play gamestyle, by
imposing their PVP cap ship thinking on player faction members.

I'll take two examples.
1) Lots of people in the LSF or SA or Navy player factions at the moment are
crying "foul" at the Outcast Capital ship being abused. The faction policies are
that they can fly fighters. They have no chance against OC caps - which camp
in NY and liberty - which by Role play...they shouldn't.

2) The Liberty Rogues CANNOT operate in liberty because of the independent
LSF/LN/SA who do not know how to Roleplay in those military factions. The
amount of Military Cap ships are ridiculous. They are absolutely forcing THEIR
pvp cap ship thinking on the LR.

As we can see from these two examples, it affects everyone. It affects traders,
who complain they arent getting pirated, or complain when they do get pirated.
It affects the military factions because they cannot Role play in their fighters
properly when independent OC/LR/LH etc... abuse Capships...and vica versa.

I understand why you say unilateral faction leadership should not be
roleplayed, but that does leave a large gap in the role play directions and
capabilities. It also doesn't make sense in the chain of command. There is
no two LSF's and there is no two RMs. The computer certainly cannot play
the leadership, so someone from the Disco community must.

And then no matter by what process that leadership is chosen, there will
always be people who don't like it and give the finger to whoever is in charge.

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