Unofficial factions in relation to official factions

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It really is a tough subject eh!

Nooblet is right, but the problem comes in when an entire faction gets ignored or defied by a single player.

My question remains: Who gets preference in the fun department? A group of players or a single individual?

Without other players, the single individual may as well be playing the single player version, but we come here for human interaction so we should all actually be doing our utmost to see what is best for the group as opposed to hundreds of individuals who come here to play solely on their own terms!

I know it would seem unfair to an Indy that the group must come first, but it is massively unfair for a single individual to disregard the play dynamic of larger groups who are not violating server rules in any way.

Concerning Official and unofficial factions: Personally, I feel that all relationships should be determined within RP terms and in those terms, whoever was there first (Official or unofficial) should be given the chance to understand the RP of the newcomer.

If they decide to be unrealistic or unfair in their response to the newcomer, then it should be taken up with Admins.
If the newcomer is unrealistic then off to the Admins you go...

This stuff should actually be simple case of good manners and mutual respect!

Well said. It comes down to trust. What power you trust the individual with and what power you trust the faction with. The lack of trust is what is a key issue.

the issue is with chains of command... factions shouldn't be able to lock down an npc faction to the extent where owning the ID means virtually the same thing as "joining" the player faction. many players don't *want* to join player factions. let them play as indie and don't restrict where they can go so long as it's ZOI. Ship restrictions are, however, reasonable so long as it's just battleships and such.

Simply put, RM.

OKay, here is my two cents

Captain the SpacePrivateer (now retired), [OSF]MNS Capriccio, fred Boscolini[101st], adn 2 other chard under develpoment atm (both bridge crew of the capriccio) all played by me, and all have been hanging out in alpha since the SOB started to show up, give or take a couple days. I KNOW I flying around alpha in the privateer for 2 weeks before i ever saw an {SOB} tag. i saw the SOB form from outside the faction circles.

I dont think i was in system when this particular incident took place, as i never saw anything to hostile in the comms, and never a face off of any type. Couple harsh words, nothign seroius. In fact, im kinda suprised it happened, It seemed they were getting together rather well.

Now that i gave some background on my POV . . .

I can understand why unnoficial factions dont take orders from the official ones, they have a slightly different agenda. Do you think a cop IRL would take all orders from a Military officer - no. They hafve different goals - cop trying to catch drug dealers and murders, the military to stop invading armies.

Thats how i kinda see the situation between unofficial factions and official ones.

Instead of issuing orders, try asking or suggesting. When i come into system in the Capriccio, I RP command by being nice, and both SOB and RoS members did what i ASKED NOT ORDERED them to do. Both were under no obligation to follow my orders, basically an indie capship owner. and here the kicker - in the same ship and same bridge offier responding (yes i have several that take command from time to time - makes for some nice rp on occasion) i followed thier orders (once again, said nicely).

boilied down to the simplest form it can be said as . . .

CO-OPERATION AND RESPECT

If both sides do this, i dont see why there would be a problem, they both work for the same side i assume?

Let's not go into who was here first at all. I haven't seen any hostility from them at all. They help out with hostiles, etc. They've shown that they are willing to defend the Orange Dream first.

As for them not taking orders; I would seriously like to know what happened. Especially since they are contract outcasts, and as such why would they take orders from RoS?

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.