Rule 5.7

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5.7 A player who was killed in a PvP fight must not enter the system where the fight took place with any of the characters on his/her account(s) while the enemy (player or players involved in the fight) remains in the system, but no more than 4 hours.

If the player respawns in the same system, he/she must leave the system without engaging. Other players are not allowed to attack one who is leaving.

I don't know if anything to this extent has ever been proposed (bloody search engine:dry:), so bear with me.

As virtually everybody here has at some point realized, the wording of 5.7 presents some logistical problemsin that it designates entire systems as single zones. This obviously presents some problems; if a House Military or police force is defeated then we have some issues, because, by server rules, the Xenos could occupy the space over Manhattan for extended periods of time (not that they'd have the gall to do that, the XA is one of the best RP-wise factions on the server at the moment; their use here is as nothing but a hypothetical example) if they managed to destroy all present lawful craft (which they often do), and the LSF, LN and LPI would be evicted from their home system for four hours. The Planetary Defense Grid Manhattan should, by all rights, have, is not there, and by these rules the Xenos can camp Manhattan. Nothing stops them. The Xenos, in-RP, should be completely unable to capture Manhattan for any period of time. That's like a wing of Sopwith Camels trying to take on the United States Air Force circa 2008, over Nellis AFB. RP says it's impossible. Game mechanics and server rules allow it.

It would be even worse with the Liberty Rogues. If the LR managed to shoot down all available lawfuls they, too, can legally camp Manhattan. What's worse is, here it works both ways, because the LR's home base, Buffalo, is in the Badlands, a quick stroll up the lane from Manhattan. If the Liberty Lawfuls were to destroy all unlawful ships in NY they'd have control of the LR's home territory. This is because the two factions are based in the same system; their home space is the same in the eyes of the server rules. Corsairs can camp Malta, Outcasts can camp Crete, Hessians, Bundschuh, Unioneers and LWB can camp RM and RFP at New Berlin and vice versa for Vogtland, Bruchsal and (whatever their home bases are, I'm not familiar with these two), Gaians (and formerly Mollys) can camp the QCXX and BPA at New London, and vice versa at Islay and Arranmore. KNF can camp QCXX at NL and vice versa for NT, Rheinland can camp Manhattan and LN/LSF can camp NB. Hell, if Yuri got a chip on his shoulder and really tried the Keepers could conquer all of Sirius if they started recruiting like mad.

My solution? Changes to 5.7 (which is about to become a lot wordier), like so. Suggest your own, if you think it can be improved on, before we make it a formal request (probably denied, but hey, we have to try, then we can say 'I Told You So'):

• A clause stating that if an unlawful force manages to defeat all lawfuls around the lawful's home territory that they (the unlawfuls) must gracefully bow out and retreat to their space once the battle is complete; the four-hour rule does not apply.
  
• A clause stating that if a lawful force manages to destroy all unlawfuls around their home territory the lawfuls should retreat back to their own territory; the four-hour rule does not apply.
  
• A clause stating that if two warring lawfuls manage to defeat one or the other on one's home territory the victor should bow out and leave system. Four-hour rule does not apply.
  
• A clause stating that if an unlawful force defeats another unlawful force on either of their home territories, the victorious party should gracefully bow out and leave system.
  
• A clause stating that if a lawful and unlawful force share the same territory within the same system, both groups should retreat to their home territories within system and remain so for four hours.
  

Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?

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