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Poll: Should battleships become faction ONLY, allowing to upgrade and make battleships more unique? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes- Make battleships Faction only, and Indy's fly BC or lower	14.81%	28	14.81%
Yes- Make battleships Factional, but also allow well RP'd and well known players to purchase and keep their battleships as independants	44.44%	84	44.44%
No- Leave the current system of buying and flying battleships	20.11%	38	20.11%
No- However, official factions can petition to get it removed if misused	17.99%	34	17.99%
Other- Please explain	2.65%	5	2.65%
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Battleships- a solution

JIVA

09-03-2009, 12:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-03-2009, 12:37 PM by JIVA.)

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but - jihad, are you fair there?

what if bombers were the problem or VHF? - same measures taken? - and ..... what exactly qualifies as a "problem" and who is it to define the "problem". - there are ( at least to me ) the problems with all of those attempts. - the intention may be good... yes. - but the "solutions" are not worked out properly.

in all the recent years - all of those solutions were similar. - they scratched a bit on the top of the matter - but left deeper problems elsewhere.

if there was a thread saying "restrict bombers to factions only" and give them the very same options. - i would expect to see the same results ( yes, people say a battleship can ruin a players day more than a bomber ... but we agree that its not really the ship, but its the player controlling the ship ) - still - such a thread would be answered greatly different to battleships being the focus of attention.

people say "freelancer is a fighter pvp game" - but is it really? - who said that? - vanilla freelancer was for sure... but is disco the same?

all that reminds me on the discussions about the tradesystem in 4.84

many people wanted to make large ships more expensive and nerf traderoutes that turned out to be too popular. - they wanted limited credits, force people into NPC factions and set tighter RP guidelines on factions ( npc faction IDs )

the result was a thread of well over 200 posts complaining about the new tradesystem - and it was mostly those that asked for more expensive ships and lesser profit that complained. - it was NOT the players that were considered "powertraders" in 4.84 that complained about the new system.

thats how things backfire when you don t think of all the consequences but dish out a half baked idea.

- some ideas there:

- what if a faction does not WANT to restrict caps? - force them to? - if not by rules... paint them as "bad" factions, cause they allow "lol-caps"?
- what if a faction totally ( and i mean utterly ) messes up. - what punishment have they gotto face? - what effect will it have on the wellfare of the community?
- what if a faction approves players and those players totally mess up ( within the rules, but still totally off ) - is that a testament of the failure of a factions judgement?

[ i know - many people really hate these "what if" questions - but if you don t think of them before you introduce things - you ll be unprepared if they occur ]

there are many questions that are not answered and "may" only be answered when it is attempted. - but if it turns out that the concept does NOT work - who dares to take the changes back to what it used to be?