Battleships- a solution

[chovynz]

I'm sure you are aware that I could return half of it back to you, though I'll spare us that little infinite loop.
Actually I don't want to get you "under my banner". Instead I would prefer a majority decision without leading someone to the conclusion all independents would be strictly against factions and for sure be lolwutters.

Besides I just told you how your statements read for me, no need to start flaming.

I am for sure a roleplayer.
I am for sure dead set against factions having control like this, when most have proven themselves, like humans, to be fallible.
I am also an advocate about factions in that they can be a great support to players.
I love factions.
But not control. I will not allow any other person to control me. (kinda of a disclaimer, trying to help you understand my POV.)

The problem there is that the FORUM members, do not accurately represent those who do not come to the forums. THOSE people, even if they are part of an NPC faction, ARE independents. These forums have never accurately represented them, and they never will. Polls are lopsided to those who care enough to vote. Most polls, most opinion fests have on average about 100-150 votes. And there are for sure a hell of a lot more Official Discovery Server Players than 150.

There are many people like me, who just want to play. We don't have a lot of time.
I don't have 3-5 weeks/months of waiting for other people to get their A into G, about a simple request to fly a ship. And then it might get turned down simply because that person has a grudge against me because my avatar hurts their eyes. OR I might have AI onboard as crew, but the faction (leader) doesn't accept that because it goes against how a ship [SHOULD BE] roleplayed. That is roleplay dictation by one PERSON, to another PERSON. IT is an OORP judgement based on feelings and emotions.

And no, Joe, this is one area where I do not agree with you, again.
Battleships should not be controlled by player factions. I've seen nothing to change my stance on this. In fact I've seen plenty of evidence to specifically state that NO. As I said just above, most of the denials in the past, have been because personal feelings got in the way of acceptance of a possible roleplay. Roleplay dictation. Even giving officals factions the power to complain to the admin team, to seriously consider removing someone elses ship, (no matter how badly roleplayed), is too much power.

As long as this is an open server that anyone can join, anyone should have the opportunity to get any ship in the NPC factions that they can join. If indeed, as you say, and I believe it for I've seen it, that there are stupid players in all types of ships, then why don't you just jump all the other hurdles that WILL come up, beat THOSE "COMPLAINTS" and make ALL ships tied to their player factions? Because that is where you are going by suggesting that a specific ship be tied to a player faction.

Why stop at battleships?
Why not do the all capital ships, Gunboats and above?
Then someone will say, Why stop there? Why not make all BOMBERS, tied to a faction. Then it will be all VERY HEAVY FIGHTERS.
Because there IS no reason to stop there, only at Battleships. Because the problem is not the ships. It is the players, and those players are in every type of ship.

In fact, why don't we skip this whole controversial and not-well thought out Whingefest, and make joining to a player faction mandatory for everyone? Then at least we could tell them, "I'm sorry, we have no more room. You'll have to try the Bretonian space."

Sarcasm aside. If you want to "control" people doing stupid things, you need to find a different way than restricting one type of ship to factions, (or to factions complaining to admins about them). Because if you restrict one, you might as well restrict them all since it is not the ships that are the problem.

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