Problem is, theres been a leak in the past, 2006 national database files, including phone numbers, home address, id number and what not, and its easy to find via google ( though much of it has changed since then ) - 21st is digital, it makes it easier for.. "unwanted" guests to take this information and use it.
Chinese hackers would love to get their hands on this if the americans had one ( maybe they had ).
(07-08-2013, 02:00 PM)AshHill07 Wrote: You're making fingerprint forgery sound easier than it is ... last I checked you actually need a physical fingerprint to fake one not just some 1s and 0s on a database. The only potential security risk I can think of for having fingerprints on a database would be someone hacking and changeing the information, which considering its an offline database would be very difficult.
As ID cards / papers we don't really have anything like that in the UK, I mean I don't even have a passport anymore since I don't really leave the country. The closest thing I have to an ID card would be my driving license, but I'm only required to keep that on me whilst I'm driving.
Not even a passport? And what if one does not have a Driver licence? I mean... I am not getting that.
I personally live in Canada. Canada itself is larger than the territory of the US, and even a few times larger than all of Europe (Considering a good part of Russia is in Asia), for that matter. I don't need any passport to move between the Provinces. Hell, I can go to the United States with my Driver's licence, too, personally, so I don't bother with costly passports.
Well down the road you know they'll come up with a centerilized machine to all of that crap, and then it would be hell of a lot easier to track people down. This has its benefits for the police for instance, but it does step on a few "amendmants" - I think this ill feeling about this whole thing is because people are afraid of changes, and new ideas, and who can blame em, leaks can be found everywhere, no matter how "offline" the thing is.
Well, it's the new standard these days, Germany also got the "electronic" ID card. Though it's - for now? - not mandatory to have your fingerprints stored on the chip and we don't have stored family links as part of the stored data.
And of course every "feature" you can get with the ID needs to be payed extra.
It's just a way to get some more cash into the governments pockets as the fee you have to pay to get a new ID card increased by something like 250-300% or so.
Oh and you can't avoid getting one, we're bound by law to have a valid ID card no matter what.
(07-08-2013, 02:08 PM)Strobel Wrote: Well, it's the new standard these days, Germany also got the "electronic" ID card. Though it's - for now? - not mandatory to have your fingerprints stored on the chip and we don't have stored family links as part of the stored data.
And of course every "feature" you can get with the ID needs to be payed extra.
It's just a way to get some more cash into the governments pockets as the fee you have to pay to get a new ID card increased by something like 250-300% or so.
Oh and you can't avoid getting one, we're bound by law to have a valid ID card no matter what.
Its currently "pilot" - only a handful of cities will get to check them in the coming months, for the moment its not mandatory but it will be nation wide in two months - and then you may get to go to jail if you decline the usage.
Resourceful or round the twist?
(07-08-2013, 02:11 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Its currently "pilot" - only a handful of cities will get to check them in the coming months, for the moment its not mandatory but it will be nation wide in two months - and then you may get to go to jail if you decline the usage.
Resourceful or round the twist?
For me it's wasted resources, when the biometric/electronic ID card was presented here they told us it'll be easier for the cities and the police to process your data. Yet so far while I came into traffic stops the police just looked at the ID, they've never checked the data on the chip itself.
Can't tell if customs actually takes a peek when I go by plane.
And you won't go to jail here for having no valid ID card here. If you can't provide one you'll usually have to pay a fine which is ~15€, even simply parking offenses are fined with more. So I guess nobody actually cares.
Another electronic bullcrap, here in my country. Like it was with electronic tickets in public transport.
Goverment says: It's so important to have such brand new and ultra usefull device, and we have no idea, how did we lived before we had it!
Population: Guys, we are fine with stuff we have now, and we dont rly need your brand new electronic device, which in result will be waste of our money.
I have no doubt, that we shall have nearly same with electronic ID, which will became mandatory, in one day, before other EU countries will rise this equestion at all.
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