Help with which cruiser?

[Tenacity]

I hate the Bullhead. I can't stand the weapons firing... like 12 guns on the front? Wut?

that's more than the order carrier can fire forward.

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[binTowers]

As someone posted somewhere: pick whichever has a better looking explosion animation.

[atlantis2112]

that's more than the order carrier can fire forward.

My point is I don't like where they are mounted.

[Montezuma/Kukulcan]

Going from a totally different angle, you might consider a kusari or bretonian destroyer, those things are astoundingly powerful if used right.

Plus, kusari and bretonia (leeds/seto in particular) need more players, if enough people go there, eventually a war might break out.

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[Galacius]

I've flown a vidar, and while I have never been in any fleet battles in it, I enjoy the ship a good deal. I honestly dont know my own style for cap ship fighting well enough to truly choose but Ill have to test them all out and think on it.

Secondly I know ill die a lot, but I hate flying anything less then a gunboat. Really I dont like fighters (every time I get in a fight with one I get shot down or instagibbed with snac) and bombers I cant seem to aim properly, so the super fast flighty fight style just doesnt suite me.

Yes people on this server are insanely paranoid and have a deep resounding hatred to the capships (which is HILARIOUS because I find thrice as much lolwuttery on gunboat and smaller besides the labc and possibly geb). The bias against these ships is ridiculous but Im used to it, and while it angers me; I just love the ships, I love the feeling of stability when you fly it, I love the rp of them and I love the massive amount of firepower they have. Its just fun!

Also, my rp is there. I can modify the rp I had for when I was still thinking I would have the patience to save up for an osiris (man I still drool over them) if I grab a resheph (or a zoner ship but I have never seen one in action so I have no clue what they are like) and if I grab a bullhead or thresher it wouldnt be that bad to make up rp for them. So far all I have done is scratch pirating, rp and trade but really I want a bit of pvp thrown in with my rp now since Im feeling so unsatisfied with the game as it is. I made this topic to find out more about the flight styles of the cruisers usable by order and bhg and which ones arent bottom of the barrel.

[Galacius]

Double post I know but I just got done doing some testing.

The resheph is out, way to big for what it is. So replace that on the list with a corvo (I really know nothing about that ships) and continue the discussion.

Honestly besides the lingering interest in the bullhead its really down to thresher vs corvo.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

I hate the Bullhead. I can't stand the weapons firing... like 12 guns on the front? Wut?

that's more than the order carrier can fire forward.

My point is I don't like where they are mounted.

Remember the general fighting attitude of the BHG is that we want you in front of us at all times, so we can get the absolute maximum firepower available on the target.

And the Order Carrier still has 18 turrets on it, too. Having two battleship turrets on the BC isn't much help when you're still outgunned, because the Carrier is capable of firing 11 turrets directly to the front - and then 11 to the rear as well, which means getting behind the Geb is not a safe place to be.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Magoo!]

I think you're over thinking this, Salorn. Do you want the thing for PvP or RP? If the latter, should the weapons really matter? And especially if the latter, how much quality RP do you think you'll get cursing the world with another indie BH cap?

Nothing against you, its just I've grown to hate the things over time.

-Edit- Which is my point, myself and a lot of others, I'm sure, have lived through the Indy cap influx last year and the three Mako's that fancy FP11 24/7 today. You'll probably be met with a cold shoulder, if not openly, the people will likely still not want to deal with you.

[n00bl3t]

Honestly besides the lingering interest in the bullhead its really down to thresher vs corvo.

Thresher.

and then 11 to the rear as well, which means getting behind the Geb is not a safe place to be.

Made that mistake once. *Sighs.*

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Galacius]

I think you're over thinking this, Salorn. Do you want the thing for PvP or RP? If the latter, should the weapons really matter? And especially if the latter, how much quality RP do you think you'll get cursing the world with another indie BH cap?

Nothing against you, its just I've grown to hate the things over time.

-Edit- Which is my point, myself and a lot of others, I'm sure, have lived through the Indy cap influx last year and the three Mako's that fancy FP11 24/7 today. You'll probably be met with a cold shoulder, if not openly, the people will likely still not want to deal with you.

See this is something im used to, the "oh so you want to pvp? well your a indie lolcap lolwutter". I want to rp, and I will but I also dont want to set myself at a huge disadvantage for pvp to, since as I said, I want to try some good fleet battles since doing purely rp or smuggling is boring me to death.

People on this server are such biased people with scripts running through their head "oh your an indie cap your gonna be a lolwutter lolz" its just silly. Its like going around stereotyping behaviors upon a race because some of said race fits said stereotype. Yes there are a lot of lolwutters, yes their was at one point a capwhore flux, but does that REALLY give you the right to look down your nose at anyone who pursues that ally? Hell about the indy thing if I found an order/bhg faction that let me bring in a cap and the guys werent dicks I would love to join them, thing is most are like "You have to start with this weak ship and maybe after months we will let you move up" that doesnt fly with me and I wont do it.

So in part im used to it and have developed a somewhat thick skin to it due to my vidar (but oh does it irk me when people get all huffy about me having it and tell me I shouldnt) and am used to that, doesnt mean I should think this inane stereotyping attitude is wrong.




TLDR RAAAAGGGEEEE and Im asking this cause I want to try fleet battles since I havent done such and dont want to pick a gimpy ship, rp is already done for either side and needs slight mods to fit said ship.